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 Post subject: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:04 pm 
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I'm not the direct victim of a scam -- but my wife is one (although she herself is in denial). She sent money away that we were going to use in retirement.

Is there an online help or support group for people in my position?

There may even be a relevant forum for me at this site, but I didn't see one.

Thanks in advance for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:14 pm 
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Feel free to post here . . . we can offer you any advice and support we have.

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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:40 pm 
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I guess I feel kind of helpless. Now, after over 30 years of marriage, she's suddenly going for various scams. Third World people that she doesn't know contact her by email, promise her a nice cut of millions of dollars, and she sends them thousands of dollars of our retirement money. She never gets a cent. It's been about two years since the first time this happened, and she still doesn't admit that it was a scam. A couple of weeks ago she withdrew $10,000 of our retirement money, and a couple of days ago another $8,000, but she refuses to say what all this money is for. (But she said she'd tell me at the end of the month. I don't know whether she's just trying to buy some time ... or whether she thinks that the big bucks are going to start to roll in by then ...) On this subject, she listens to no rational argument from me or from our two daughters. But she seems otherwise sane. I'm at my wit's end


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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:11 pm 
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Is there any way that you can move all of the money out of the account and put it in a different account that she cannot get at? I know this is extreme, but sometimes that is what you have to do to stop people. It becomes like a gambling addiction . . . always thinking that the next one will be the big pay out.

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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:54 am 
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Hi,
I have been scammed on a fake ebay sale. The seller sent, what looked like a genuine ebay communication, asking me to deposit £3100 in a secured bank account in Greece. I have done this, but have now found out it is a scam.

Can I get my money back from this bank account ...? Any advice would be very welcome..


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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:18 pm 
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Indirect Scam Victim.

I deeply heartfelt sympathize with your difficult situation. I feel and hear your pain. My father is doing something very similar, however he only has $1000/ month of social security and no retirement. My mother and I are also at our witts end. I have been dealing with this situation in increasing levels for the last 2 years. The last 8 months have been the very worst.

My father too receives these emails and actively corresponds with the scammers. He trusts them.
NOTE: once your loved ones are pegged with the scam emails they will increase and become a target for ALL scammers.
I tried to stop the email thing by disabling my fathers email.. but he opened a new email and began emailing scammers, as he had printed many of the previous scam offers.

I will forward you any information/ resources/ helps that I find.
I too am looking for resources/ support/ help groups to help me find help for my father.

I agree with the suggestion of moving $ funds into an account that is our of your wifes' financial reach. And set up a trustee if you should happen to pass away so she does not have direct access to funds. yes, this is extreme but it protects her and you financially.

One thing that may help... depending on how your wife is sending funds to scammers... If she is wiring funds thru western union or money grahm, then contact their fraud department. (you can also contact the other wire companies in your aresa, I haven't gottem that far). Ask to speak to a supervisor. Explain your situation and state how much you've already lost and ask them how to block your wife from sending wires.

I've been successful at blocking my father from sending wires thru both companies. Additionally, my mother now keeps money in a bank account out of my fathers reach. This is difficult as my dad feels the family is out to get him. If he had control of the funds he would spend every last dime every month.

Warmest Regards,
Hang In There
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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:38 pm 
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I too need help! My mother is being scammed and is completely in denial. I have tried to convince her for the past 2 years and she won't believe. I just keep telling to not to send money and she states she would NEVER but I found an email from her to one of the scammers, ( she is in a web of them with his "lawyers , doctors , son etc) stating she has already sent 40,000. Now we suspect she sent another 25,000. On Dec 20!

I don't know what to do, I don't have the power to move money and she would never let me take control of her funds. She is in such denial she is already mad at me for not believing that this man is real. I don't want to lose my mom either ...please help???


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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:51 pm 
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Hi helpmymama. Sorry your mom is being scammed. If you know the username of the scammer then do a google search. You may need to add scammer. If he is listed on any of the many anti-scam sites then his name will come up. If you do find he is listed on one of the sites then show your mom. You can also do a google search of his email or any part of his many emails. Your mom is lucky to have such a caring daughter. Best of luck to you.

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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:59 pm 
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Suddenly, my wife has stopped responding to scams. This happened just as suddenly as it started. Unfortunately, during the time she was responding to the scams and sending money we lost about $120,000. (This amount is my estimate: to this day she refuses to tell me the actual amount.) But now, I am facing a psychological problem that I never anticipated. Earlier, my goal was to get her to stop responding to the scams and sending money; I thought that if I could just get her to stop doing that, I'd feel a lot better; all my energies were directed toward that. Well, she stopped, and I feel better to some extent, but now we owe lots and lots of money to pay back the loans, cash advances, etc., that she took in order to send the scammers money. Everyday we get phone calls from banks and financial institutuions, asking to talk to either me or my wife. I thought we were done with the scams, but now we have to pay back all the money that she borrowed in order to send it to them. I feel really stupid supplying all this money. Like I'm a scam victim too -- although I was the one who was against it all from the very first scam email! :(


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 Post subject: Re: indirect scam victim
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Scams and fraud hurt so many people in a variety of ways . . . emotionally and financially. It does take a long time to recover from the scars that they leave on us.

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