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 Post subject: WesternUnion BidPay scam
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:38 am 
Almost got conned by this guy... i lost some money in shipping charges :( :x , but hey, i STOPPED the delivery just before it got delivered and re-directed it to a friend of mine in a different country :D :oops:

:( :( :(

Luckily i thought of contacting WesternUnion to see why the order number did not appear in my account... was :o to know that the order number DID NOT exist in their system!!!

:( :( :(

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Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:40:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: ORDER APPROVED (23810551) **DO NOT REPLY**
From: "Western Union BidPay" <BidPay@westernunion.com>
Add to
Address Book
To: "Harry" <harry@xyz.com>
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
Importance: Normal
Content-Length: 951

Dear Harry,

A AUD375.00 Money OrderSM for payment of Other item HP Jornada
548-colour PDA has been approved
.Gregory Hamilton has chosen to use Western Union
BidPay® for the speed of an online payment service from a name you can
trust.

Please send the item while your Money OrderSM is on its way to you and
notify us,the buyer’s shipping information is provided below.Your
Money OrderSM will be sent by the close of the next business day after
you receive this email. First Class mail is typically delivered within
7-10 business days.

Shipping information:

Name : Joseph Ajayi
Address : 25,Polytechnic Road,Sango
City : Ibadan
State : Oyo
Country : Nigeria
Zip Code : 23402

If the buyer has requested that the item be sent to any address other
than the one provided above, please do not ship the item and notify us
immediately.Go to http://www.auctionpayments.com/contactus.asp. Be sure to
include the Western Union Auction Payments order number and the change
of address the buyer has requested. Also, include change of address
as the subject of your email.

N.B NOTE THAT THE MONEY ORDER WILL NOT GET TO YOUR RESIDENT UNTIL THE
SHIPMENT TRACKING NUMBER IS SENT TO US FOR SHIPMENT VERIFICATION

Thank you for using Western Union BidPay®.We look forward to serving
your online auction payment needs in the future.

Sincerely,
BidPay®.
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DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE SELECT THE
FOLLOWING LINK
https://netsage.finali.com/netsage?cust ... &iid=esell
pendunreg&num=22649520

Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 02:10:15 -0700
From: "Gregory Hamilton" <ghamilton33@gmail.com> Add to Address Book
To: "harry, " <harry@xyz.com>
Subject: Re: Regarding your ad in the Computer Trader:HP Jornada 548- colour PDA


Hello Mr harry,

Thanks for your reply.The address in which you'll send the item to is

Name of receiver : Joseph Ajayi
Address : 25,Polytechnic road,Sango
City : Ibadan
State : Oyo
Zip Code : 23402
Country : Nigeria.

That's the address.And for the payment,i'll be making the payment by Western Union Bidpay.There agent are in Australia,do don't have anything to do with Auspost.They are registered mail that deliver Money.Please send your contact address so that i can make the payment immediately.Reply me asap.

Regards
Gregory


On 25/05/05, harry, <harry@xyz.com> wrote:
Hello Mr. Gregory,

The cost of sending the parcel via DHL is
approximately $250.00 (please note this is not the
total amount and thus excludes the cost of the PDA)
kindly visit http://www.dhl.com.au and follow the
instructions. I'll be parcelling it from Melbourne and
the weight of it is app 1.6 kgs.

Could you kindly provide me with the exact details of
where & whom to send the parcel to please. Also, wrt
the payment could you pls let me know what mode you
prefer, because if you choose to send it via Western
Union, I believe AusPost are agents for it and I guess
you can request for payment on parcel option.

Please let me know so that I can provide you with my
details for payment.

Thanks & Regards, harry.

--- Gregory Hamilton <ghamilton33@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr harry,
> Thanks for your reply.I will advice you to ship the
> item via DHL due to
> some problems have faced with Australian Postal
> Service.Please,I'm
> sorry,I'll add $2 to it.Please kindly calculate the
> shipping to Nigeria via
> DHL and reply me with your contact informations so
> that i can make the
> payment as soon as possible.
> Regards
> Gregory.
>
> On 24/05/05, harry, <harry@xyz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Mr. Gregory,
> >
> > I have found the shipping information as
> requested.
> > Below is the summary (and some additional info) of
> > costs:
> >
> > The total weight of the parcel is approximately
> 1.65
> > Kgs. Please visit
> >
> http://www1.auspost.com.au/pac/int_parcel_select.asp
> > for further information as I believe there are
> some
> > rules for importing goods into Nigeria (select
> Nigeria
> > from the country list).
> >
> > The cost of shipping is as below:
> >
> > Express Courier International (ECI):
> > Estimated delivery time = 1 week
> > Merchendise Parcel cost = $69.50
> > Inusrance cost = $10.00 (optional)
> >
> > Standard Air Mail:
> > Estimated delivery time = 2 weeks
> > Parcel cost = $47.00
> > No insurance available
> >
> >
> > All prices above are in Australian $$.
> >
> > Hope this helps and please do feel free to contact me
> > should you require any additional information.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > harry.
> >
> > --- Gregory Hamilton <ghamilton33@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Hello Mr harry,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.The place in West Africa is
> > > NIGERIA.Kindly calculate the shipping cost to the
> > country and reply me asap.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Gregory
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/22/05, harry, <harry@xyz.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello Gregory,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your enquiry about the product. Yes, its
> > > > still available for sale.
> > > >
> > > > I will get back to you once I've found out the details
> > > > of postage + insurance in general. In the mean time
> > > > are you able to inform me where exactly in West Africa
> > > > / U.S.A this is to be sent to as it helps in
> > > getting
> > > > exact price!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- ghamilton33@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Gregory Hamilton.I\'m living in Derby
> > > > > street,Trent Upon Tyne,UK. I\'m the director of Briggs Ltd. I saw
> > > your item stated in Comtrader and i have interest in it.I want to
> > > buy the item for my Son or for my friend,My son is living in West
> > > > > Africa,while my friend is living in US.I want to know if you still have it
> > > in stock.I\'m in Kuwait right now for a conference and the only
> > > > > effective method of payment there is Western Union Bidpay.Kindly
> > > > > calculate the shipping to West Africa and US so that i can know where
> to send it to.Reply me asap so that we can finalise on the transaction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Engr.G.Hamilton
> > > > >


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 Post subject: re: WesternUnion BidPay scam
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:08 am 
I wonder what http://www.bidpay.com or http://www.westernunion.com are doing about this? I mean seriously how can one send an e-mail claiming to be from one of these two companies and these two companies DO NOT do anything?

Way to go my friend... :o


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:08 pm 
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Payment Services are in it for the fees they charge you to send money, they wont do anything if it will cost them money in lost fees by warning people. GREEDY is what I call it. Western Union has been approached by many of us and asked nicely to help warn people before someone loses their whole life savings and they refuse to even put up a simple sign at the counters they operate warning of Nigerian scams such as these.

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 Post subject: He almost got me.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:10 am 
I got an e-mail from this guy. Then I found this site and realized he was trying to scam me.


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 Post subject: Want to scam the scammer?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:38 pm 
Hi me too a few days ago...

a friend googled fragments of his email - the last line was extremely sus - and came with this post...

So would anyone be willing to turn the tables on this guy?

If theres a "Private" area we can talk to take things further it would be cool just incase that asswipe gets this when he googles it;)


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:00 am 
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hop on over to http://www.419eater.com and see if you can round up a baiter to mess with the poor boy a bit, there really isnt a way to get these people apprehended, the best you can do is have someone play some good mind games with them.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:21 am 
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Hey KarynSolo,

The link doesnt work... is it meant to be 419eater.com?

I was thinking of doing something similar to the ambitious PowerPC prank:
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/index.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:49 am 
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yes 419eater.com


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:57 am 
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cool thanks, i've made a post for a guiding hand here:
http://www.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic ... =25#385606

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:46 pm 
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Oooops sorry bout that , im full of typos lately.

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 Post subject: Bidpay scam
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:17 pm 
watch out for a person in yahoo under autos. his email is martinsders@gmail. he has an e-mail address from Bidpay and he sends it out and it looks real. if you try to by a car and they want to use bidpay unless the car is under $1000.00 the e-mail is a FAKE.


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 Post subject: Bidpay Scam
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:20 pm 
His real name might be Duncan Ferguson or Martin Sanders and he lives in London.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:20 pm 
wow people buy cars online too? :shock:


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:25 am 
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Shoot I bought a Lunch Truck online once , even flew hubby from GA to Maryland to drive the thing home. Seller was so nice as to give it to us stocked with sodas and snacks, left over from his divorce party a day earlier. LOL he decided to use the truck one last time before we picked it up.

Was a good deal all the way around, not all sellers online are bad, you just have to be careful and never send them money using services that offer NO protection if you get scammed.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:32 pm 
Holy Cow i just received a similar offer over here in Singapore!! Claing to be from Nigeria..bloody scammers!!Thanks for the info dudes!


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