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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:07 pm 
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SEC exposes another ponzi:

The Securities and Exchange Commission today charged Atlanta-area firm CRE Capital Corporation and its president James G. Ossie with operating a Ponzi scheme.

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-6.htm

said Katherine S. Addleman, Regional Director of the SEC's Atlanta Regional Office. "We also want to remind investors to be skeptical of promoters promising exorbitant returns. Such claims should be a red flag to investors."


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:14 pm 
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WARNING FROM ADMIN:

Play nice or go play in some other sandbox! We will not have name calling. I had to delete several posts in this thread today due to name calling. ENOUGH!

If it continues we will lock this thread also.

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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:43 pm 
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again, i can sit here all day long and make acusations about all of you, i can make post's all day long acusing any one of you of numerous things. But again, all false acusaations!! i'm sure i can google "bloggers" who make false acusations about things and plenty of info will come up. The company works, deal with it. If you were at one of the meetings before the new year you would know it:)


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:48 pm 
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Alright. Good luck to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:27 pm 
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Admin,

I have been lurking in both this thread and the old one, along with the threads on fatwallet.com. I don't have any interest in the matter other than personal curiosity. I feel compelled to register and write this email because I believe you are about to repeat a serious mistake. Its pretty obvious that the various shills presenting the Agape case are aware of your politeness policy and are using it for their own malicious ends. Their goal here is to stifle discussion, and the best way to do that is to act hostile in the forum until you go ahead and lock the thread. You are doing exactly what the criminals want you to do, and therefore, you are undermining the purpose of your organization. If I were you, I would think deeply about whether your greatest priority is to prevent fraud, or have a family friendly forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:30 pm 
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This is what someone posted on Fatwallet regarding the Agape meetings today:

"you want an update from the meeting this morning? Here ya go: Wakeag, Bed Four and Carriage will NOT be paid. They are starting default proceedings - but no worries, your principal is secured!!! That was basically the message...seriously.

good luck to all involved"

Not claiming the validity of this post, just passing it along.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:19 pm 
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yes, let's not "stifle discussion" when there is know discussion at all? how is several people bashing a company considered a "discussion" ? You only continue to bring a one sided arguement, and cannot backup, or prove any allegations that have been made. WHERE IS YOUR DOCUMENTATION? WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? WHERE IS YOUR CRIME? please stop making false acusations, and back up your allegations with some substance please.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:21 pm 
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reality.....you said earlier you recieved a check...state a fact for me....what loan was it on? Answering this should keep everyone hushed


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:37 pm 
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since enrolling in merchant, i have been getting my check every month, as far as the bridge loans, i rolled into the year long contract, and then placed some into merchant as well. I have had no reason to ask for my money back at this time.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:00 pm 
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According to the thread on fatwallet investors are not getting paid and an investigation is underway.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance ... ?start=320

Apparently the evidence is being compiled. Patience. You will get what you asked for.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:04 pm 
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again, i've been following that thread as well, maybe ther where some mis-comunications, but it sounds like no one has lost ANYTHING! please stop making false acusations without evidence.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:11 pm 
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well lets state some facts. The restaurant loan, 1st checks supposed to be recieved jan 19...not happening. Reports are the place isnt open and is in financial trouble. Cant get paid from someplace that isnt generating income.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:14 pm 
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I am not a lawyer but I believe District Attorneys usually wait until trial to disclose evidence. I am pretty sure they don't post it on internet message boards.


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:25 pm 
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i know that, i am not a millionaire
i know that, i don't have a 30ft speed boat
i know that, i don't have a private jet

so if i post this on internet message boards everyone is suppose to beleive that i have all these things?
has anyone been on my boat?
has anyone been on my plane? to that trip on the private island that i tell everyone i own?
oh yes, my private island is great!


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 Post subject: Re: Agape World inc
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:17 pm 
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Rathipon wrote:
Admin,

I have been lurking in both this thread and the old one, along with the threads on fatwallet.com. I don't have any interest in the matter other than personal curiosity. I feel compelled to register and write this email because I believe you are about to repeat a serious mistake. Its pretty obvious that the various shills presenting the Agape case are aware of your politeness policy and are using it for their own malicious ends. Their goal here is to stifle discussion, and the best way to do that is to act hostile in the forum until you go ahead and lock the thread. You are doing exactly what the criminals want you to do, and therefore, you are undermining the purpose of your organization. If I were you, I would think deeply about whether your greatest priority is to prevent fraud, or have a family friendly forum.


Rathipon,
Thank for your comments. Maybe I will just bann the people/users that cannot "play nice" that way the topic can stay on here and discussion can continue but people who are calling others names or bashing will not be able to continue in the discussion.

To everyone else,
I want the "show me the proof" posts to stop . . . we get it, you want to see proof . . . you don't need to post it over and over again.

If you have gotten a check, scan it with the personal information covered, and post it so that others can see that you are telling the truth.

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