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 Post subject: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:59 am 
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Hi guys i am new here and been so depressed for the past days...i work in a restaurant as a waitstaff and since business is slow i tried to sell watches on he web... I used the money me and my wife saved for 6 years...I purchase a watch worth $7300...and try to sell it at $7800...somebody contacted me on the phone and he was intrested on my item..so i told him what to do to make a wire transfer on my bank...so he said ok he will do a bank to bank transfer...me not knowing that if somebody's make a wire transfer it should appear in your bank wire transfer instead of counter credit...so i said ill just wait for it to clear...te nest day it cleared and ask the bank if its safe to ship my item worth $7800 and they said yes you can go ahead and ship it..so i ship the item he got it and 4 days have pass and it was still in good standing.. he purchase another watch worth $10,150..i used the money he paid me to purchase the watch..since its still in good standing until day 5 i went and go ahead with the transaction...so when he got the 2nd watch the money he paid cleared and can be transferred.. so i went and transferred it...the next day thats what i saw negative balance of $7800...i knew it right there and then tha the 2nd payment will bounce too..so i called the bank..like what other people say here the VICTIM GETS VICTIMIZED AGAIN!! the bank will not care and will not listen to our stories they try to calm us down until they get their money back..they will not even care for the suspect... even the cops i reported too dont blame me....but anyway to cut the story short i have a couple of questions i hope you guys can help me with this...

1. Can a bank give you a date when you have to pay all the negative balance?What if you dont meet that date?
2. What if you cant afford to pay for it the way they wanted too? Will they sue you even though they cleared the money??
3. My bank wants me to pay $500 a week...I dont even make $500 a week ..if i can only pay $500 a month will they force me to pay more than that??
4. Whats the worst case scenario if you only pay $500 a month not the $500 a week they want me to do..would they force you to pay even if you dont have any money??
4. Is there any financial aid or any org that can help people that got victimized for money fraud and cant pay for the money?
5. Was there any person here who filed a fraud and have actually solve the case??


I dont know what to do..like one of the member here mine is a lot bigger $17950... how am i able to pay that???? i am the victim and it seem to me banks dont care even if they have a video surveillance to catch the guy who deposited the MO..they just go after the Victim...I need somebody to help me or at least guide me where to go.... I contacted IC3 and my local police and i don't know if they will even bother to investigate my case...I just cant seem to accept that this guy will just walk away with $17950 on his pocket and left a family struggle for the rest of their lives...It was me and my wife savings for 6 years....Guys please try guide me where to go or who to talk too....Thank you so much for listening!!!


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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:14 pm 
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First off, go NOW and open a new account at a different bank so that you can have something to live off of. If you have any direct deposits going into the bank you are working with, have them turned off otherwise you will not have any money to live day to day.

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1. Can a bank give you a date when you have to pay all the negative balance?What if you dont meet that date?

Yes, the bank can notify you that they want the entire amount paid by a certian date . . . but as my Grandmother used to say "You can't get blood out of a turnip" . . . if you do not have the money to pay it back, then you cannot do it, but they can sue you and get a payment plan set up or trash your credit.

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2. What if you cant afford to pay for it the way they wanted too? Will they sue you even though they cleared the money??

Yes, they can sue you . . . but if the case goes to court you could get a judge that will side with you for a payment plan you can afford. Or some banks have offered scam victims a low interest loan so that they can pay the money back . . . real nice . . . they did not tell you it was a fake, you lost thousands of dollars, and now they will make money off of you by giving you a low interest loan. :roll:

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3. My bank wants me to pay $500 a week...I dont even make $500 a week ..if i can only pay $500 a month will they force me to pay more than that??

I would write a letter to your bank explaining that you can only pay $500 per month. You could include your tax info or your last 3 months income statements to show them that you only make enough to pay $500 per month. Keep copies of all conversations and letters back and forth between you and the bank.

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4. Whats the worst case scenario if you only pay $500 a month not the $500 a week they want me to do..would they force you to pay even if you dont have any money??

I think that they would have to sue to and then the courts would have to see all of the documents and they would see how much you make so then they would say how much you could pay.

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4. Is there any financial aid or any org that can help people that got victimized for money fraud and cant pay for the money?

As of right now, there is not much. I am hoping that someday this site can offer a program where we can assist victims with a percentage of their loss, or offer no interest loans that can be paid back as the victim can . . . basically very flexible payment plans . . . I also hope that victims who have recovered financially will donate money to our site for a program like this. If they are donating to help someone else out, then that person can some day donate money to help someone else out . . . kind of a "pay it forward" thing.

Here is some VERY good information from our friends at FraudAid.com that I suggest you read . . .
http://www.fraudaid.com/how-to-deal-wit ... _steps.htm
http://www.fraudaid.com/processing.htm#back

NOTE: If you have a consistently low balance in your checking account and have had funds made available to you by your bank in an amount inconsistent with your normal checking account balance, please go here . . .
https://www.fraudaid.com/forms/fraud_debt.asp
An example would be: You normally have a balance of $400 or less in your checking account and your bank makes funds available* to you in an amount of say, $30,000.

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5. Was there any person here who filed a fraud and have actually solve the case??

Solved the case or caught the scammers? The scammers live in another country, so it would be the law enforcement in THAT country that would have to go after these people . . . since these scams are bringing millions of dollars into their country every year, they don't see it as a problem. That is why for now the best way to stop these scams is through education and spreading the word.

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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:02 pm 
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Question: Who do you bank with? If it is a national bank you may have some more problems, where did they deposit the money orders? Why did a bank allow a non memeber to deposit such a large amount into your account? Did they make the deposit in person..........or by mail?

You should have signed those money orders that were deposited, did it match your signature? You may have some hope but I need more details.


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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:59 pm 
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A shame he did not get back with me, I am almost positive I could have helped him beat this one..................oh well


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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:36 pm 
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I agree, but maybe someone else will come along and see the messages and their situation will be much the same.

I know that some people have gotten out of the loss of money over the "provisional loan" if before this all happened they had a poor credit rating, or were the type of person who would not qualify for a loan.

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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:09 am 
Hello,
I read your email and I feel very sorry for you but I can assure you you will get all your money back in a short while.Kindly contact me on my email address so we can talk better.My name is Inspector Mark Mapp and my email is inspectormarkmapp@yahoo.co.uk so please feel free to email me for solution on your money so I can include your name on list of victims that has been victimised of their money through money scams.Thank you and hope to read from you soon.Bye for now


Cheers,


Inspector Mark Mapp.


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 Post subject: Re: $17,950 Counterfeit money orders
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:21 pm 
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I would warn anyone NOT to contact someone in this manner.

This sounds like the perfect set up for a re-victimization scam. If you are who you say you are inspectormark could you just tell us what department you are with, why you would be using a yahoo account and not an account from your place of business, and the mailing address and phone number of the department you are with so that we can contact them and verify that you are who you say you are.

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