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 Post subject: Travel Club and Time Share Scams
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:05 pm 
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Travel clubs and time shares are becoming a real problem-

I was a victim of Royal Club Resorts, Royal Club International and Andre Muran (|and his willing staff of accomplices)
We were sold on RCI using RCI promotional materials, but were then signed up for Royal Club International (we were led to believe that RCI and Royal Club International were one in the same- the sales people would use "RCI" and "Royal Club International" interchangeably, so that we would assume that they were the same thing. They are in fact two completely different things)

When we tried to use our membership, we were refused travel services.
Our complaints were met with a royal run around and then eventually ignored.
We filed complaints with the BBB and also Alberta Government Services. This resulted in 125 criminal charges being laid against Andre Muran and his companies. There was also a fair amount of negative publicity- and so he pretty much stopped operating under the name "Royal Club International" and now operates the same scam under the name "Chateau World"

He has now set up a company called Properties International which represents itself as an investment company and is pushing the latest scam "Elevations Resort"

There is detailed information about the Royal Club scam, Chateau World, media, government and court links available at [url]http:www.cheatauworld.com[/url] (that is CHEAT-au-world)

Alberta Government Services (Consumer Alert)
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/933....

Alberta Government Services (Information Bulletin)
http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/NewsFrame.cfm?...

Alberta Government Services (Undertaking)
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf/...

BBB Calgary Report on Chateau World
http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.as...

BBB Calgary Report on Royal Club International
http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.as...

CFCN Consumer Watch
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArtic...

CFCN Consumer Watch
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArtic...

CFCN Consumer Watch
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArtic...

Calgary Herald
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news...

Travel Club Scams
http://www.cheatauworld.com

Alberta Courts (Reasons for Judgment in case with Wayne Barry)
http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998-...

Dialing for Deadbeats
http://dialing4deadbeats.net/deadbeatlis...

Rip Off Report
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/12...

Chris Shaddock's Blog (many interesting posts from people who claim to be former employees of these companies)
http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/blog/show...

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 Post subject: Re: Travel Club and Time Share Scams
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:06 pm 
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Several bogus blogs have been set up in an effort to remove negative information about Andre Muran from the top rankings in Google.
To see what the real links have to say about Andre Muran, click the links below. (some of these are duplicates of the list above but many of them are new:

Alberta Government Services (Consumer Alert)
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/933.cfm

Alberta Government Services (Information Bulletin)
http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/NewsFrame.cfm ... 292E1.html

Alberta Government Services (Undertaking)
http://www.servicealberta.gov.ab.ca/pdf ... _19_07.pdf

BBB Calgary Report on Chateau World
http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.a ... firm=45652

BBB Calgary Report on Royal Club International:
http://calgary.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.a ... firm=28353

CFCN Consumer Watch:
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArti ... ary.ctv.ca

CFCN Consumer Watch:
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArti ... =fullstory

CFCN Consumer Watch:
http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/RTGAMArti ... =fullstory

Calgary Herald:
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/new ... 11cc424160

Alberta Courts (Reasons for Judgment in case with Wayne Barry)
http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/jdb/1998 ... qb0211.pdf

CHEATauworld.com
http://www.cheatauworld.com

Rip Off Report 1:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/1 ... 128914.htm

Rip Off Report 2:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/2 ... 206461.htm

Rip Off Report 3:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/2 ... 206466.htm

Rip Off Report 4:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/0 ... 099491.htm
Rip Off Report 5:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/0 ... 099398.htm

Rip Off Report 6:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/0 ... 097699.htm

Realestatetalks.com (discussion board)
http://www.realestatetalks.com/viewtopi ... 2&p=109742

TUGG BBS (discussion board)
http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Street Talk (discussion board)
http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum18/HTML/000818.html

Yahoo Answers
http://boards.independenttraveler.com/s ... php?t=7288

Independent Traveller (Discussion Board)
http://boards.independenttraveler.com/s ... php?t=7288

Consumer Blog 1:
http://my.opera.com/chriss2000/blog/show.dml/58340

Consumer blog 2:
http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwi ... re%20Muran

Consumer Blog 3:
http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwi ... ith-people

Consumer Blog 4:
http://my.opera.com/victorwallace/blog/

Consumer Blog 5:
http://my.opera.com/La%20Velle%20Goodwi ... ernational

Yahoo Answers
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 441AAWzUQv

Connect 2 Edmonton
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum/sh ... php?t=5192


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 Post subject: Re: Travel Club and Time Share Scams
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:51 am 
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:shock: I am completely stunned to find out what has been happening with Chateau World in Canmore!

What a complete and total mess!

Chateau Canmore- that is gone. If you thought you had a timeshare there- you don't.

Chateau World members who had that resort as their "home resort" were sent letters telling them that their timeshare had been "upgraded" to the Banff Gate Mountain Lodge and Spa... but you can't do that without a whole new timeshare contract for the Banff Gate Mountain Lodge and Spa!

The Banff Gate Mountain Lodge and Spa has a bunch of units listed as foreclosure properties on MLS and is so over sold that nobody can get time at the resort.

What is most shocking to me is that they are calling telling me that I owe club dues and maintanance fees- but they are not telling me that they are no longer on the RCI exchange- which means that they can not fulfill their end of the agreement which is to provide me with RCI points and I can't use their stinkin resort!!!

There is all kinds of information about it at http://www.cheatauworld.ca

Victims should call RCI to see about thier memberships.

:evil: I am not impressed.


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