I know this has been hashed out quite a bit on here, but I thought I'd post my interaction with these clowns. When I first received his email, I checked the properties of the email, found the originating IP address, and traced it to South Africa. I knew immediately something was up. Also, when he was talking about purchasing our products, he had no concern about purchasing in bulk at list price. I knew this was BS, but played along to find out to get more details and uncover the scam. When he provided the shipping company info, that's all I needed to find this site. I'm posting our interaction below. For my last email, I'm going to cut and paste Brian's last response, only changing the addressee name to suit. After all, most of there emails are rehashed over and over again to each intended victim. Why not play their game. Maybe they'll get the idea if they keep receiving the same response everytime they attempt the scam. Just my thoughts.
Hello Mike,
You are not the first to try this and I assume you will not be the last, your frt company does not exsist
please move on to your next intended target and stop wasting my time.
Or you could do the right thing and go directly to the police station, turn yourself
in and tell them you have been stealing peoples hard earned money and you
would like to repent and pay all those poor unsuspecting people back no matter
what it takes.
But... I suspect you will just keep stealing and being the low life you are.
Todd
Urns of America
Todd.
Am sorry to say this but can you please send me an email with the total cost of an individual. i don't want to be a dealer anymore.
Regards
Mr Mike Wilson
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Urns of America <
From: Urns of America <
Subject: Re: Shipping Information....
To: "Mike Wilson" <w.mike111@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 4:41 PM
Mike,
Thanks for your order. Please create an account for your company on our website
http://www.urnsofamerica.com. Once you complete that, I will set you up with the dealer discount at which time you can place your order online with your credit card. All transactions go through our ecommerce payment gateway for credit card authorization and processing.
Thanks for your interest,
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wilson
To: Urns of America
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Shipping Information....
Todd,
Thank you very much for the quote and prices and information on the order i am very happy to go ahead with this order and i wanted you to know that i am sending this order to an industrial Company in West Africa. I will really want to recommend you to a shipping company which will come to your location to pick up this materials from you and ship it over to the Company. i would like you to send an email to the shipping company with your location address, quantities and sizes of the product and also the delivery address
of the Company below.
DELIVERY ADDRESS.
PRODUCTIVE COMPANY
Mr Jonathan Obeng, (Cor-ordinator)
SUHUM, POSTAL ADDRESS:
445 Suhum Road. Accra
P.O.BOX 281 Suhum
Eastern Region Ghana
And below is the contact info for the shippers i want you to send
an email to get me a freight quote.
CONTACT DETAILS FOR SHIPPERS.
Company Name: Gem Shipping Company.
Contact Person: Mr. Chris Lee
Company's Direct E-mail:
Gemshippers@cooltoad.comI would kindly like you to go ahead and send an email to the shippers with your location address and the delivery address and then the quantities and sizes of the materials and ask them how much it will cost for them to come to your location to pack the materials from your warehouse and ship it out to the Company address.As soon as you hear back from the shipping company, add the cost of the material to that of the shipping fee and email me the grand total so that i can make the full payment for you to place the order for me. As soon as you receive this email try and get in touch with the shippers to get me the quote. I will look forward to do business with you after this one has succeeded.
Kindly advise.
Regards.....
Mr Mike Wilson
--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Urns of America
From: Urns of America
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
To: "Mike Wilson" <w..mike111@yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:51 PM
Mike,
Please be advised that stocking dealers enjoy a 20% discount on all our products. For domestic U.S. shipping, we offer all our dealers free ground shipping and we further understand that all payments are by credit card. Therefore, the list price of the keepsake urns is $31.20 each. The cost to you for the full 100 items purchased would total $3120.00 USD.
Please inform us how you wish to proceed.
Thanks and best regards,
Todd Witengier
Urns of America
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wilson
To: Urns of America
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
Todd,
Thank you for the email. I would wish much to be a dealer. But i would liek you to know that before i become a dealer, all my product i would be buying would be sent out side state and that i where i have my company. Let me say i would like to be a dealer of your product. kindly email me with the price of the offered quantity dealer discount. Also i would be using my credit card for the charges. Kindly advise and get back to me.
Regards
Mr Mike Wilson
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Urns of America
From: Urns of America
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
To: "Mike Wilson" <w..mike111@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
Mike,
Before I quote you a price, I need to confirm if you wish to become a dealer of our products. The prices on the website are for individual purchases. If you wish to become a dealer and order in quantities, we would offer a quantity dealer discount.
Thanks and best regards,
Todd Witengier
Urns of America
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wilson
To: Urns of America
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
Todd,
Thank you for the email. As at now i would nto need shipping. I would be recommending a freight company which would in to your shop and make the pick up for me.. Kindly advise on the cost of the product.
Regards
Mr Mike Wilson
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Urns of America
From: Urns of America <
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
To: "Mike Wilson" <w..mike111@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:21 PM
Dear Mr. Wilson,
In order to calculate the sales tax, we will need your shipping address as well as the name of your company. There is no charge for ground shipping domestically here in the United States. Currently, we have 100 units of each in stock, however, 76 units in each urn style have been spoken for. Can you accept a partial shipment of 24ea in both urn styles with the balance to be delivered in 2 to 3 weeks? We can ship the 48 units that we currently have in stock as soon as tomorrow.
Sincerely,
Todd Witengier
Urns of America
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Wilson
To: Urns of America
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
Todd,
Thank you for the email and i really appreciate that. I have viewed the website and below is what i would like to order for.
Brass Keepsake Urn with Brushed Stainless Steel Finish
Price =$39.00
Quantity : 50
Brass Keepsake Urn with Blue Pebbled Finish
Price =$39.00
Quantity : 50
Above is what i would like to order for. I would like you to calculate and get back to me with the total cost and also let me know how much is would cost for the total of 100 Brass Keepsake urns at the price of $39.00. Remember i would be making payment with my Credit card. I would be looking forward to your email.
Regards
Mr Mike Wilson
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Urns of America
From: Urns of America
Subject: Re: Message from Urns of America
To: "Mike Wilson" <W...mike111@yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:26 PM
Dear Mr. Wilson,
All of our products are displayed on our website, including pricing at
http://www.urnsofamerica.com. That said, from your list we carry pet urns and keepsake urns. We do not stock marble, glass, or ceramic urns. Our specialty is the cubic urns, which are available in two different sizes and four different colors and are fashioned with an applique of which you have many to choose from. Overseas shipping would be handled F..O.B. St. Louis, MO USA. Free ground shipping is availabe for domestic U.S.. orders.
Thank you for your interest,
Todd Witengier
Urns of America
866-794-9464
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Wilson" <
To: <
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: Message from Urns of America
From: Mike Wilson
Email:
W.mike111@yahoo.com------------------------------------------------------
Hello Sir/ Madam,
How are you doing.. I hope you are doing well. Am actually sending an
email regarding an order on some Urns. I would need to make some purchase on
some urns and i need you to get back to me with the price list of the Pet
Urns, Marble Urns, Glass Urns, Keepsake Urns and the Ceramic Urns. I don't
know which one you have in stock, but i would like you to look through your
inventory and get back to me with the price list of the those urns. In any
case you don't have any of the listed urns in stock, kindly email me with
the those you have in stock then i can choose through. Also let me know the
form of payment you accept for special order then we can proceed. I would be
looking forward to your email.
Regards
Mr Mike Wilson
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