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 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:52 pm 

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Forward is the understanding from your group, hope your money will be back and thief will be caught, good luck for all.

<From azztek> ok Jeff, this is good, nice to know you are willing to help. I will stop bothering your families, friends, and business associates for now. Also, I will not mention you in the SEC complaint I am sending on Wednesday. Since you are still dealing with David you should recommend he get us some cash really soon or I will start killing over $8 Billion in business that he is working on.

[2008/9/20 0:10:45] Bob River ?? Also, why don't you help us? add us to a deal just a point or two on a deal nobody will care. Loan me a couple of million to get into a trade I will split it with you. You know you can do it. Let's work together here.

[2008/9/20 6:22:30] Bob River ?? Jeff, Here is another option. I just spoke to someone who has a trade deal that pays 60% weekly. Minimum is $1M and they ping the account. So do this put $1M in an account for me to go into the trade. I will pay you back from the profits and then use the additional profits to set up the group into the trade so everyone can get paid back. All you need to do is a short term loan, I will even give you some of the profits, that will go into an account that you can set up. We can work out the details and you can even talk to the traders. let me know.

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:43 pm 

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Two people are facing life sentences and the scammers are free, William Lenz and Richard Devries. Please look at the following links. Any help regarding these two would be appreciated. These two people are accused of something they did not do, however, someone else did and they were framed: ... ?id=903807

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:44 pm 

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Anyone want to offer a bounty on this David Praise Edwards, I can provide him to you; pm for info.

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:00 pm 

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David Praise Edwards was recently arrested, posted a 50K bail and has skipped on the bail. So if you know where he is, I'm sure the bail bondsman would be happy $$ to get him re arrested!

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:18 am 

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Most Recent Offers!

This agreement is made and entered on this day March 2009
by and between:
xxxx herein represented by xxxx bearer of xxxPassport number XXX with office at xxx hereinafter referred to as (“Party A”);
CHINA INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, INC. herein represented by MR. LIU YUAN QING bearer of United States Of America Passport Number 097359100, with address at 1330 Livingston Ave, Section 6, North Brunswick, NJ 08902 United States of America, hereinafter referred as (“Party B”),

A. Party A has the required financial instrument in form of Standby Letter of Credit (“SBLC”) from top (10) ten world prime banks.

B. Party B or through its trustee company has the bank credit facilities granted by the Bank of China (Hong Kong) Limited and agrees to provide the bank credit facilities.

C. Both PARTIES agree to utilize the facilities for the purpose of their respective projects.

Party A agrees to provide the bank instrument as follows:-
Instruments : STANDBY LETTER OF CREDIT (“SBLC”), ICC NO. 600 (Appendix “A”)
Currency : USD
Issuing Bank : XXXXXXXX
Contract Value : USD 500,000,000.00 (US Dollar Five Hundred Million only)
Denomination : USD SSS X ? trance
Term : (12) Twelve Months
Age : New Issue
Name of Applicant : XXX GROUP CO LTD
Transaction Mode : MT799, MT760 & Telegraphic Transfer


1. Both Parties signs this Joint Venture Agreement with full Bank Coordinates as the legal binding document.

2. Within seven (7) banking days, Party A will instruct its Issuing Bank to send out a Pre Advice via MT799 SWIFT to the Receiving Bank of Party B for confirmation of:-
a. its account readiness of receiving the Standby Letter of Credit (“SBLC”) , and
b. the verbiage of the SBLC

3. The Receiving Bank of Party B will reply with confirmation via MT799 SWIFT.
4. The Issuing Bank of Party A issues the Standby Letter of Credit (“SBLC”) by MT760 SWIFT to the Receiving Bank of Party B.

5. Upon the SBLC is verified, authenticated and accepted by the Receiving Bank of Party B, the fund will be drawn down as follows:-
SBLC Face Value 100%
Draw Down Value 90%
Utilized Fund 80%
6. The Utilized Fund will then be disbursed as follows:-
Party A 10%
Party B 10%
Fund Reserve for Trade Program 80%

7. The return of the Trade Program will be used in priority to settle the utilized credit line plus bank interest & charges so that the SBLC can be redeemed and released from the Receiving Bank of Party B to the Issuing Bank before its maturity. Any surplus return will be shared by both Parties equally.

8. The disbursement of 10% each to Party A & B, shall be remitted by wire transfer within (10) ten banking days upon draw down subject to the clearance obtained from the Hong Kong Monetary Authority (“HKMA”).

9. The disbursement of the return from the Trade Program to Party A & B is subject to the terms and conditions as agreed in the Trade Contract signed with the Trader in London.

3.1 The Bank Coordinate of the Issuing Bank of Party A is as follows:-
Name of Account :
Account No :
Bank Name :
Bank Address :
Bank Officer :
Bank Tel No :
Bank Fax No :
3.2 The Bank Coordinate of the Receiving Bank of the Party B is as follows:-
Beneficiary Address: Room A, 22/F, Wing Sing Commercial Centre, 12-16 Wing Lok Street, Sheung Wan, Hong Kong.
ACCOUNT NO : 012-267-61-07276-5
Tel No : +(852) 2833 8798 / Mobile: +(852) 9877 7550
Fax No : +(852) 2573 8607
e-mail :

Improper release of the above banking information, for any reason, without the written prior authorization of other party, shall be considered as a Breach of Contract and will make a defaulted Party to be actionable for Damages sustained hereby.
If Party A could not cause its Issuing Bank to send out the SBLC to the Receiving Bank of Party B within (14) fourteen days from the date of signing, this Agreement document shall be rendered NULL and VOID.
The Parties agree to settle any dispute arising between them on an amicable manner. In the event of failure to an amicable settlement, the Parties agree to submit any irreconcilable to ICC office in Geneva, Switzerland, by three arbitrary appointed in accordance with ICC rules.
Neither Party may assign or delegate its interest or duties without prior written consent of the other Party.
At any time during the continuance of this Agreement, the parties above-named or the successor in interest will have the right to amend this Agreement in any particular, so long as the amendment is agreed and accepted by both Parties with signatures and stamp, and any amendment so made will have the same effect as if it originally formed a part of this Agreement.
In the event that one of the articles or addendum of this Agreement is considered void and enforceable, the whole Agreement is considered enforceable and ceased to exist.
Both Parties to this Agreement represent that they have the Full Legal Authority to execute this Agreement and agree to be bound by Terms and Conditions set forth herein.
Both Parties agree that this Agreement may be executed simultaneously by and between Parties via telefax or Facsimile Transmission which should be deemed as Original. All statements made by either party are under penalty of perjury.
Neither Party to this Agreement shall be responsible for Breach of Contract caused by an act of God, Civil Insurrections, Military War Operation or local Emergency – The Parties hereby accept the International Provision of the “FORCE MAJEURE” as defined by ICC 458, Publications, whichever relates to the Uniform Commercial Code as it relates to bank credit instruments

Upon execution below, both Parties hereto agree to the general terms and conditions herein and warrant onto the other the entire agreement between parties.
Executed by Party A for and on behalf of xxxxx

(COUNTRY) Passport No:


Liu Yuan Qing

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:38 am 

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CICM is a company incorporated for investment in selected viable projects within the approved system legally.

CICM works with genuine investors, financial groups and all related parties for mutual benefits under the due diligent process.

Recently CICM was privately invited to explore into a possible joint-venture business with Dr. Hayati & Group, and was requested to provide a specimen Joint Venture Agreement for discussion purpose.

The specimen Joint Venture Agreement is a Private & Confidential document meant for private discussion between both parties. However, it was unethically leaked out from Dr. Hayati & Group and now posted by "sheerluckholmes" as the Most Recent offers on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6.18 am in this site.

CICM does not know what is the motive behind "sheerluckholmes" to do so.

Nevertheless, CICM hereby give an official notice to "sheerluckholmes" to remove its post with immediate effect. Failing which, CICM reserves the right to take necessary legal action against "sheerluckholmes" for its unscrupulous and irresponsible posting of the message with the intention to defame and smear the name of CICM.

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:23 pm 

Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:35 am
Posts: 8
Justice rules. The following court case of David Praise Edwards;

U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission
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U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
Litigation Release No. 21011 / April 24, 2009
Securities and Exchange Commission v. David Praise, et al., Civil Action No. 09-2802 (United States District Court, Central District of California, Los Angeles Divison)
SEC Sues Promoters of High Yield Investment Programs for Fraud and Seeks Penalties and Disgorgement of Investor Funds

On April 22, 2009, the Securities and Exchange Commission filed a civil action in the United States District Court in Los Angeles, California, against defendants David Praise, Noel Kamanga Mwangi, Martin A. Burke, and William F. Dippolito. The Commission alleges that the defendants conducted two fraudulent high-yield securities offerings between August 2007 and August 2008, raising a total of $14.7 million from approximately 10 investors located throughout the United States and Canada.

The Commission's complaint alleges that, in the first offering, defendant Praise represented that investors could make $15 million for every $1 million invested through a so-called "buy-sell" trading program involving foreign bank instruments. Investors ultimately deposited a total of $12.2 million into a designated bank account, but no "buy-sell" transactions ever occurred. Instead, Praise and others absconded with the funds.

In the second offering, the Commission alleges that defendants Burke and Praise told an investor that a company Burke controlled had arranged to purchase a 500 million euro "medium-term note," which they would use to support a trading program. Burke and Praise told the investor he would receive $10 million in 30 days, plus trading profits over the next year. At their direction, the investor deposited $2.5 million into an account controlled by defendant William F. Dippolito, a Tacoma, Washington attorney who the Commission charged with fraud in a similar fraudulent scheme in 2007. See SEC v. Global Finance & Investments, Inc. et al., Litigation Rel. No. 20200 (July 18, 2007). The funds were never used as Burke and Praise claimed. Rather, Dippolito, at defendant Mwangi's direction, sent the funds to Mwangi, entities Praise controlled, and others.

The Commission's complaint charges defendants Praise, Mwangi, and Burke with violations of Section 5 and 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933 ("Securities Act") and Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange Act") and Rule 10b-5 thereunder, and charges Dippolito with aiding and abetting Praise, Mwangi and Burke's violations of Section 10(b) of the Exchange Act and Rule 10b-5 thereunder. The Commission seeks permanent injunctive relief, disgorgement with prejudgment interest and civil penalties against all defendants.

In addition, the Commission has named the following people and entities as relief defendants because they received investor funds for no consideration: Marinco, Inc., China Infrastructure Capital Management, Inc., Werner Buettiker, Gabrial Pennicott, Cynthia Pennicott, Salomon Bassim, William Lenz, Lenzburg Capital Corporation, Integrated Technologies Group, Inc., Investor Select, A.G., Robert Justino, Kismet Cyriacks, Zara Akbar, Dr. Brian P. Killian, and William R. Chapman. As to these relief defendants, the Commission requests disgorgement of their ill-gotten gains, with prejudgment interest. ... r21011.htm
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Modified: 04/24/2009

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:46 am 

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The Litigation Release No. 21011 / April 24, 2009 by U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION has cleared the name of China Infrastructure Capital Management, Inc.

CICM is now clarified by the U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION that it is NOT as what those parties falsely allege with.

CICM hereby demands the identity of those parties who have posted their messages and comments, and even have unscrupulously and unethically circulated e-mails with the intention to defame and tarnish the name of CICM.

CICM is and shall remain as a business entity that carry out business transaction with due diligent and within the legal & banking systems.

 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 7:52 pm 
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I deleted some posts and now I am just going to say this

play nice or take it some place else

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 Post subject: Re: China Infrastructure Capital Management (CICM)
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:57 pm 

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YuanQing Liu, AKA Jeff Lau, Bill Liu, etc.

SEC has indeed named China Infrastructure Capital Management, Inc. as a relief defendant as YOU have received our funds for no consideration. CICM must return the money. $12.2 M went to CICM's account that you, Mr. Liu, personally flew to Bermuda and set up. CICM has not been cleared but NAMED. It is available for the world to read on the SEC.GOV website. Stating on a Scam victims website that the SEC cleared CICM, as you did does not make it true.

As far as your demanding someones identity, you know who we are. You have our banking information from last year when you promised me night after night that the money was sent to us, remember it was with monetary control, you sent the orders to Standard Charter Bank to wire the money to us, 3-4 weeks of you lying to me about sending the money and you never did.

As far as your claim. "CICM is and shall remain as a business entity that carry out business transaction with due diligent and within the legal & banking systems."
When did you do the Due diligence on your partners David Praise, now sitting in Jail, the Pennicotts, indicted in Australia, Mwangi, scammer whose attorney just dropped him for lying to him, where was your due diligence on them? They are your partners, you aided them in defrauding us.(I will post the partnership agreement if you like) If they used you then you aided them in money laundering, perhaps the FBI will look into that. BTW, the tile store in New Jersey that you use as your business address for CICM, is that just a front to launder money? Or maybe issuing fake passports like the one you were getting for David Praise so he can escape the country before getting caught.

You had a chance to show you were not involved by filing criminal charges against Mwangi and Praise in Bermuda last year.

Jeff, when you finally send the wires from last year that you promised to send I will take this down.

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