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Author:  intelligent536 [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  My convo from my confrontation

Heres my convo from my confrontation for analyzation. Is this the standard way it goes? I need help! I still somewhat believe this person.

Well heres the YM conversation for analyzation.

Her (11/28/2006 9:57:48 AM): Hi My Love,
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 9:57:52 AM): hello
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 9:58:00 AM): honey whats your full name?
Her (11/28/2006 9:58:51 AM): Mary Jasper Or Gonzale
Her (11/28/2006 9:59:02 AM): Gonzale is Our traditional name
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 9:59:06 AM): yes
Her (11/28/2006 9:59:13 AM): why do you ask?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 9:59:23 AM): cause the email refers to you as mary jasper
Her (11/28/2006 9:59:30 AM): Ok Dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:00 AM): I told them that they should use this Or Vo for me
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:00:07 AM): well i have some more follow up questions now
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:25 AM): and i explain to them that i`m planning to come and marry you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:00:28 AM): and i hope you will not be offended
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:35 AM): yes dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:43 AM): what is the question Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:52 AM): But please dear, I don`t want you to hurt me
Her (11/28/2006 10:00:55 AM): Please
Her (11/28/2006 10:01:00 AM): I love you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:01:04 AM): so my good friend has informed me that there are a lot of scammers all claiming to be from somewhere else and ended up in nigeria
Her (11/28/2006 10:01:18 AM): ahhhhhhhhhhh
Her (11/28/2006 10:01:22 AM): why dear ?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:01:39 AM): so honey if you arent scamming me, I apologize for the inconvience now
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:01:47 AM): but i want proof of who yu are
Her (11/28/2006 10:02:01 AM): Please dear, You should have known that i am not the KIND
Her (11/28/2006 10:02:14 AM): Honey, I hope you know that we love each other
Her (11/28/2006 10:02:19 AM): I love you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:02:22 AM): honey i love you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:02:25 AM): if you are truly you
Her (11/28/2006 10:02:29 AM): and i don`t expect this from you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:02:34 AM): so now you must prove that you are you
Her (11/28/2006 10:02:55 AM): Dear ! How dop you want me to proove it with all my best for you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:03:08 AM): honey... i want you to get a webcam
Her (11/28/2006 10:03:09 AM): I know TRUE will proove itself
Her (11/28/2006 10:03:28 AM): Ok Dear, I will try my best possible to get it
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:03:37 AM): as i said honey i am sorry if these allegations are false... but until they are proven false... then i must assume they are true
Her (11/28/2006 10:03:43 AM): But why dear ? Do you want someone to seperate Us
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:03:49 AM): no
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:03:53 AM): i dont want to be seperated
Her (11/28/2006 10:03:56 AM): Why then
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:04:01 AM): but i do not want to be lied to either
Her (11/28/2006 10:04:06 AM): so now if you truly love me
Her (11/28/2006 10:04:13 AM): then you will prove yourself to be who you are
Her (11/28/2006 10:04:13 AM): I will try my best possible if that you want honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:04:48 AM): ill brb 2 mins
Her (11/28/2006 10:04:53 AM): I Truly Love you because no one is there when i melt you and no one is tell me to love you
Her (11/28/2006 10:05:01 AM): ok intime honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:08:08 AM): ok
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:08:12 AM): im back
Her (11/28/2006 10:08:18 AM): welcome back honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:08:32 AM): David ! Who is that your friend ?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:08:42 AM): name will be undisclosed
Her (11/28/2006 10:08:50 AM): It seem is trying to jealous us
Her (11/28/2006 10:08:57 AM): No Tell me honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:09:00 AM): well my friend has my best interest in mind
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:10 AM): if you too is truly love
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:09:23 AM): honey...
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:28 AM): don`t you want me to know his name
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:30 AM): Hun
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:09:31 AM): look i've always wanted proof anyway
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:33 AM): No dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:39 AM): Ok dear
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:09:45 AM): once mentioned that... well now I need proof
Her (11/28/2006 10:09:53 AM): I wil get Web cam for you Love
Her (11/28/2006 10:10:11 AM): but what are you going to do for me if its TRUE honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:10:36 AM): honey then you will have my true love for you
Her (11/28/2006 10:10:45 AM): It seem you want something to let me down
Her (11/28/2006 10:10:57 AM): Seem like you want to let me down
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:07 AM): you can't guilt me into this
Her (11/28/2006 10:11:18 AM): so you don`t truely love me Hun
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:18 AM): my mind is set
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:25 AM): there are 2 things i want now
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:37 AM): 1) would be that i want you to get a webcam
Her (11/28/2006 10:11:40 AM): What is that Honey ?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:43 AM): 2) would be im no longer paying anything
Her (11/28/2006 10:11:46 AM): ok dear
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:11:47 AM): until you arrive to ny
Her (11/28/2006 10:11:58 AM): ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:12:05 AM): why that ?
Her (11/28/2006 10:12:15 AM): so that is what you are trying to say to me honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:12:26 AM): You embarrass me Hun
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:12:51 AM): im sorry if this is not true
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:13:00 AM): but i can't take that chance
Her (11/28/2006 10:13:25 AM): No Dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:13:31 AM): I don`t believe it Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:13:43 AM): this not how you are talking to me before honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:13:51 AM): this is true
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:14:09 AM): but like i said... i cant take that chance
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:14:50 AM): what is this honey?
Her (11/28/2006 10:15:35 AM): I want to tell you that i will get my web cam for you
Her (11/28/2006 10:15:59 AM): but i am noit sure that i can pay for all my airfright ticket
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:10 AM): i am sorry honey...
Her (11/28/2006 10:16:20 AM): ahhhhhhhhhhh Dear
Her (11/28/2006 10:16:30 AM): WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THEN ?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:32 AM): ill make you this deal
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:35 AM): you come to ny
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:39 AM): and when you get here
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:44 AM): ill pay you $400
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:16:49 AM): for the ticket
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:17:08 AM): once you come and prove that you do love me and that you are real... ill pay it
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:17:19 AM): i dont mind paying it... i just dont want to be scammed
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:17:32 AM): so do what you must
Her (11/28/2006 10:17:47 AM): You can`t Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:17:56 AM): because i`m not
Her (11/28/2006 10:18:00 AM): You know that Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:18:13 AM): thats why i want to get my web cam for you by all miss
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:18:46 AM): honey.. im sorry i cant do it
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:18:51 AM): borrow money from your mom
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:19:01 AM): and I promise to pay it back as soon as you get here
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:19:08 AM): but i cant do it until then
Her (11/28/2006 10:19:13 AM): ohhhhhh Dear
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:19:55 AM): im sorry
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:19:58 AM): i have no choice here
Her (11/28/2006 10:20:35 AM): David ! But i don`t understand what is going today
Her (11/28/2006 10:20:48 AM): I don`t just understand you
Her (11/28/2006 10:20:56 AM): what is happening ?
Her (11/28/2006 10:21:06 AM): I don`t understand you today
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:21:10 AM): im sorry
Her (11/28/2006 10:21:12 AM): oh God
Her (11/28/2006 10:21:22 AM): Oh My God !
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:21:26 AM): i want you to prove me wrong
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:21:34 AM): but i must keep my defenses up
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:21:58 AM): until you are laying with me... i can't risk my heart
Her (11/28/2006 10:22:40 AM): Dear ! My Love not mean defences for you Hun
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:22:57 AM): the gears are already in motion
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:23:18 AM): my mind is set... if you truly love me please just do what i say
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:23:23 AM): and we will be together forever
Her (11/28/2006 10:24:19 AM): Dear ! Is only one i can do Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:24:27 AM): and if you too Love me
Her (11/28/2006 10:24:38 AM): you will take it like that
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:25:06 AM): honey im truly sorry
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:25:12 AM): but i cant
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:26:10 AM): this love could last forever
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:26:30 AM): but i need to protect my heart from getting hurt
Her (11/28/2006 10:26:31 AM): How do you expect me to get all money to come
Her (11/28/2006 10:26:48 AM): I can`t pay for everything honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:26:57 AM): we have debate on this before
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:27:05 AM): im telling you to borrow it... i will pay you back as soon as you get here
Her (11/28/2006 10:27:15 AM): do you want to take me for Fool Honey ?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:27:38 AM): i have no choice here
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:27:50 AM): if you want to leave me then do so... i cannot change my mind
Her (11/28/2006 10:28:17 AM): ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Her (11/28/2006 10:28:19 AM): dear
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:28:22 AM): but if you truly love me and want to be my wife... then you will do what you must
Her (11/28/2006 10:28:33 AM): why are you talking like this to me today
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:28:40 AM): i apologize
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:28:46 AM): and i hope that you will prove me wrong
Her (11/28/2006 10:28:49 AM): its okay dear
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:28:57 AM): i want you as badly as i ever did
Her (11/28/2006 10:29:03 AM): you cause headache for me
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:29:05 AM): but i cannot take this risk
Her (11/28/2006 10:29:09 AM): i want you too Honey
Her (11/28/2006 10:29:25 AM): but if you love me you can`t talk like this to me
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:29:52 AM): like i said honey i am sorry
Her (11/28/2006 10:30:28 AM): Oh God
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:30:42 AM): this will be the only time i will ever hurt you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:31:06 AM): but in order for me to truly love you and not hold back... this issue must be resolved
Her (11/28/2006 10:34:37 AM): Dear ! I am having headache
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:37:55 AM): sorry
Her (11/28/2006 10:38:13 AM): David ! Please i need to take Rest
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:38:21 AM): go rest then honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:38:27 AM): i will await your decision
Her (11/28/2006 10:38:50 AM): Dear ! Its only cam i am ready to get for you
Her (11/28/2006 10:39:00 AM): so that you can know that i am REAL
Her (11/28/2006 10:39:08 AM): You will know that i for you
Her (11/28/2006 10:39:39 AM): You will know that you stupid friend just want us to seperate
Her (11/28/2006 10:39:58 AM): I don`t know why you will love your friend than me
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:12 AM): I`m sure he was the one that email me
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:17 AM): the one i told you about
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:40:21 AM): which one?
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:21 AM): I`m very sure
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:29 AM): but i don`t even know this person
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:40:29 AM): you didnt tell me actually
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:35 AM): and i wish to know him
Her (11/28/2006 10:40:47 AM): he want to ruin my life
Her (11/28/2006 10:41:09 AM): Am i not telling you that someone IM me when we are chatting someday
Her (11/28/2006 10:41:11 AM): Hun
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:41:29 AM): you didnt tell me anyone IMed you
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:42:53 AM): well honey i am very sorry
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:43:00 AM): but this is how it must go...
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:43:48 AM): i want to love you without any fears
Her (11/28/2006 10:43:49 AM): Dear ! I am sorry
Her (11/28/2006 10:44:01 AM): i don`t want to talk anymore
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:44:07 AM): never again?
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:44:25 AM): or just today?
Her (11/28/2006 10:44:53 AM): Please dear, I want to have rest
Her (11/28/2006 10:45:01 AM): Oh God
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:47:52 AM):
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:48:28 AM): i want to believe in you... i want to love you... i want you...
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:48:53 AM): but i will need you to do those 2 things... im very sorry
Her (11/28/2006 10:50:27 AM): I don`t just understand you My Love
Her (11/28/2006 10:50:40 AM): All this is very Strange to me
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:50:52 AM): im very sorry...
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:52:26 AM): i promise you this... if you fulfill these 2 things... the love I have shown you is nothing compared to the love I am capable of
Her (11/28/2006 10:52:56 AM): Dear Its only one i can asure you
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:12 AM): Please tell me if you really love me or not
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:53:17 AM): i do love you
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:21 AM): i don`t understand you atall
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:29 AM): Please leave me David
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:33 AM): why me Honey ?
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:49 AM): But you are telling me since this days that you do love me REALLY
Her (11/28/2006 10:53:58 AM): ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:53:59 AM): i do really love you
Her (11/28/2006 10:54:07 AM): please i am going
Her (11/28/2006 10:54:13 AM): i don`t believe you honey
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:54:19 AM): then i am sorry
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:54:27 AM): goodbye my love
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:54:55 AM): my offer will stand... if you ever want it
intelligent536 (11/28/2006 10:54:59 AM): just email me

Author:  armac [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:05 pm ]
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You certainly want this to be real. The second "she" asks you to start cashing checks for "her" you will know for sure it is a scam.


I am thinking scam already.

Author:  intelligent536 [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:49 pm ]
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Yes I do want it to be real... but it is more like I rather it be real. Of course I have my suspicions which I always have (probably because I am a cynic) but something doesn't feel right either way. My gut tells me that this is a scam... but my brain tells me this could be true just because of how elaborate it is. And my gut feeling that this is a scam went away after this conversation. Right now, I really can't decide. What if she gets the webcam and I see that it is her... do I go with that as proof? What is my play here?

Author:  Sarah Price [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:16 pm ]
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If you do go to webcam, it will probably be the male scammers sister, girlfriend, etc that you see, since most scammers are guys.

Author:  intelligent536 [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:30 pm ]
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hahaha... as you can see by my conversation... I thought ahead on that one. The webcam, I figure, would boost the chances of her being real or being caught. If she doesn't look like her pictures... then its over, I caught him/her. If she does though... then I will have to continue with the experiment no? Anyone think she may be an even higher level con artist and try to pull a big con on me (I.E. come to the US and somehow screw me over here)?

Author:  intelligent536 [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:33 pm ]
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BTW I did a google search and nothing returned. Also, I am much more interested in how this turns out than the relationship itself. I can easily truly fall in love with this girl if she were real, but at this point I am quite interested in the psychological warfare. It doesn't seem she has given up since I received an email from her 30 mins after this conversation.

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