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 Post subject: whew! almost?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:20 pm 
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Hi, good day to all of you. I think I almost got scammed. Can you guys help me confirm?

I have been negotiating a certain transaction from a person in U.K.
She wants to buy an equipment from me that is somewhat expensive.
After several replies and negotiations...

I finally received an email from:
westernunionmoneytransferpayment@ financesource.com
with a subject:
***PAYMENT COMFIRMATION TRACKING NEEDED TO SEND PAYMENT***

I began to suspect that this is not a real message from western union, since the pictures along with their email are just jpegs and gifs.. no link or whatsoever to direct me to WU's website.

Luckily, I came across in this website, and realized that the descriptions that most of you have stated are similar to mine. Can you help me confirm if this message is aunthentic or b*llsh*t?


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 Post subject: Another one
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:51 pm 
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I almost got scammed by this guy its sounds just like what every one else has had

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X-Apparently-To: steve2449@yahoo.com via 66.163.179.154; Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:53:47 -0700
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Subject: WESTERN UNION MONEY ORDER APPROVED***DO NOT REPLY***
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Dear Steve Campbell,

Western Union ® Auction Payments hereby congratulate you and at the same time informing you once again that the ®Money OrderSM sent to you from "Philip Ken"has been Approved.®Money OrderSM: $337.50

Auction Product: Golf gloves

Auction Site: YahooAuction.com

Auction Pin Number: 6948374221

Please verify that the following address (as entered by the buyer) is correct again.

Name:Steve xxxxxxxx
Address: xxxxxxxx
City:xxxxxxx
Country:xxx
Zipcode:xxxxx
Country:United States
Tell: xxxxxxxx


If there is a mistake in your address, please Contact the Buyer To correct the above error.
This order has been approved and will be send as a Money Order to your address in 7-9 days.YOU CAN NOW send the items to the buyer.While your Money order is on the way to you, Moreover the above ®Pin Number will be ask before delivering the ®Money OrderSM, you will also identify your self By asking you the Auction item Number.

NOTE THAT THE MONEY ORDER WILL NOT GET TO YOUR RESIDENT UNTIL THE SHIPMENT TRACKING NUMBER IS SENT TO THE BUYER FOR SHIPMENT VERIFICATION.

Thank you for using Western Union ® Auction Payments. We look forward serving your online auction payment needs in the future.

Tell:+447031845590

Sincerely,
Western Union Auction Payments.













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 Post subject: Thanks for alerting me to the Elijah Moore scam
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:43 pm 
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Location: Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
This was the email that was sent to me. I was pretty excited that a collector in Africa would be interested in my work, since I just recently launched my website at http://www.kevingrass.com Thank goodness for your forum, before I was ready to go to much trouble to pull a painting out of a show to send to this scam artist. I appreciate the heads up & hope that this will keep others from falling for the same bs.

This is the email I got:

Hi
i was looking at a sample of your work and i was impressed at the
creativity of your work and i will like to see all your works so let me know
where i can view all your works and i was thinking of ordering but i will
like to know whether you can sell to me and ship it to West Africa for me,so
please i will need to hear from you in regards to this and to know your mode
of payment cause i was thinking i send you my credit card number # and the
expire date to charge for my order to make our business faster but not
throught paypal,but i will awaite to hear from you with your opinion.
Sincerly
Elijah Moore


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 Post subject: More "Elijah Moore"
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:02 pm 
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida
It sure does get around. This arrived in my email at http://www.nrmstudios.com Look Familiar?

From - Sat Oct 22 13:57:52 2005
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Return-Path: <elijahmoorestore1@yahoo.com>
Delivered-To: nrmstudi-nick@nrmstudios.com
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Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:52:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elijah Moore <elijahmoorestore1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Art Enquiry.....................Reply Needed
To: nick@nrmstudios.com
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Hi
i was looking at a sample of your work and i was impressed at the creativity of your work and i will like to see all your works so let me know where i can view all your works and i was thinking of ordering but i will like to know whether you can sell to me and ship it to West Africa for me,so please i will need to hear from you in regards to this and to know your mode of payment cause i was thinking i send you my credit card number # and the expire date to charge for my order to make our business faster but not throught paypal,but i will awaite to hear from you with your opinion.
Sincerly
Elijah Moore


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 Post subject: scam of Elijah Moore
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:38 am 
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Thanks to your forum, I was able to identify this scam. I am a photographer and this guy wanted to buy several of my artworks. My web site: http://www.photoartmill.com
I was corresponding with him for a while, but got suspicious. Why he doesn't use PayPal, which is secure and wants to send me his credit card number via email? It looked like scam. So I decided to check his name in search engines and I came across your forum. I wrote to him that the only way of payment will be Western Union and once I have cash in my hands I can ship him whatever he wants. Of course he didn't respond to that. Beware of the scam of Elijah Moore.


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 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:36 pm 
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I have someone who wants to buy something from me and provides shipping for the product. He wants to pay me with bidpay. Is there a way to insure that the transaction is authentic (that it exsits?) like is there some sort of reference number that I can track a transaction with? And see the details of the transaction? Can the transaction bounce?

There are also other people who wants to pay through international money order cheque or cashier cheque, after doing a little research, it seems to me that this isn't as secure and there is no way to track or to see if the cheques are authentic.

I know I ask a lot of questions, but I am a newbie in online selling. Thanks to all replys in advance.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:54 am 
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Sounds like a scam - more than likely you will receive a bogus email from Bidpay stating that you have been paid by this guy, and that the money will be released to you when you have supplied a valid tracking number for the shipment. Whatever you do, dont ship the product until you have money in your hand - and tell him you will use a shipper of your choice, not his. Suggest payment by Western Union money transfer - you'll probably never hear from him again.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:10 pm 
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Thanks for the advice. I will see if he responds. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:29 pm 
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My suggestion with bidpay is to call their customer service to verify the transaction.

International Money orders are risky so be careful to have the post office check them over if they are USPS money orders.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:34 pm 
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hopeully next week friday.payment would be delivered.or
withing that period.

carl

> Do you have a estimated time for the payment ?
> I can,t hold em too long you see
> greetings from holland
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carlos Montes" <montestores@mfire.com>
> To: "RINDERT" <info@rin-woningonderhoud.nl>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: payment and shipping
>
>
> > Ok. i would notify you as soon as payment is sent. but
> > please do not sell out the auo without my permission.
> >
> > carl
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Carlos Montes" <montestores@mfire.com>
> > > To: "RINDERT" <info@rin-woningonderhoud.nl>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:26 PM
> > > Subject: payment and shipping
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the mail .
> > > >
> > > > I do want you to understand that i have agreed with
> > > > the price of purchasing the auto for 4750 EUR
> > > >
> > > > I want you to know that i got in contact with my
> > > > associate in the france before travelling to the USA
> > > > ,who owes me the sum of 9,600 euros which he as
> > > > agreed to send a cheque OF 9600 euros to you .
> > > >
> > > > I would need your full name , contact address and
> > > > phone no ,so that the cheque can be sent to your
> > > > address.As soon as you recieved the cheque:
> > > >
> > > > 1)You would then have the cheque of(9,600 euros )
> > > > cashed , 2)collect how much i BOUGHT IT for 4750 EUR
> > > > 3)And have the rest of the money sent to my agent
> > > > through western union money transfer so that he
> > > > can come to your location TO CONCLUDE THE
> > > > TRANSACTION and for the shippment of the auto
> > > > I read from you, with your contact details for the
> > > > cheque to be sent to you.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.speurders.nl/speurder.php?id=15749620
> > > > > Hello this is the jou link looking for ???
> > > > > This is the actuel price and condition
> > > > > greetings from holland
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Carlos Montes" <montestores@mfire.com>
> > > > > To: <montestores@mfire.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:51 AM
> > > > > Subject: your auto moto for sale.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am Carlos Montes from England . I came accross
> > > > > > your ads regarding the auto moto you have for
> > > > > > sale. please do let me know the present
> > > > > > conditions,price and photos of it .
> > > > > > I read from you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos
:lol: seems a lot of a scam
mayby the same person, here some more info:
bsanni@yahoo.com
Hello, Sayo Banni
Is youre nickname Carlos Montes ?
Zealod Nig Ltd ?
ip.nr 193.220.45.46 ?


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 Post subject: Nigeria scam
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:45 pm 
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I also had someone attempt to get me to ship them a laptop i advertised on craigslist with payment using alertpay

Beware of this address...

Richard Dortmond <ricdortmond@graffiti.net> wrote:

I want the laptop for my cousin who is studying in Nigeria.send your address and your full name so that I can make the payment immeddiately.
Thanks.
Name: Edward David
Address: 10,Aluko street,Apete
City: Ibadan
state: Oyo
country:Nigeria
Zip code; 23402

Richard Dortmond <ricdortmond@graffiti.net> wrote:
Thanks for your prompt response,I will like to make the payment immediately via alertpay.I will need your name and address to do this.i am waiting to read from you immediately.
Thanks.

Dear seller,
I am intrested to buy your laptop posted on the web,I will pay $400 for it.Let me know if you have the latop for immediate sale.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:15 am 
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Location: UK
Hi, This post is very informative, however I would like some specific information. If someone can help me then please send me a private message. Best Regards,


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 Post subject: Re: WesternUnion BidPay scam
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:15 am 
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Hello,
Thanks for all your effort on my family, i pray God will reward you for all your good, i want you to know that i will make the payment via MoneyGram Money Order ASAP and they will verify the payment and approve it ASAP, so i will like you to package the item well for my grandson and ship it via USPS Global Express Mail International 8 day(EMS) as soon as you get the confirmation from MoneyGram Money Order about the payment that the payment as been made and approved.pls end the item on eBay
The ship to address is stated below:

Name : Olatunji Olatunde
Address : 3 Oyo road , Agbowo U.I
City : Ibadan,
State : Oyo state,
Zipcode : 23402
Country : Nigeria.

Regards,
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you so much guys... If i didnt google this, i think i would have got scammed. :|


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 Post subject: Re: WesternUnion BidPay scam
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:33 pm 
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One more for the list:

imeh49_babajo@yahoo.com
Name:michael imeh
Address:N01 Ayun Hostel Agbowo UI
City:Ibadan
State:Oyo
Zip code:23402
Country:Nigeria

tried to scam on craigslist.


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