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Author:  Elsy [ Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Carlos Montes: scam?
Hi!

I am selling a property in the internet and I was contacted by Mr. Carlos Montes, who was interested in buying the property.
I became suspicious when Mr. Carlos Montes readily answered affirmatively when I asked for the price of 40 000 euros. I thought: who buys a property without seeing it...?
Even more suspicious, Mr. Carlos Montes told me the price was to be paid by a deposit of 10 000 euros, and the rest of the amount will be paid by his agent...

So I searched in the Internet and luckily found this forum.

I am now aware of the situation, but I still answered to the last e-mail Mr. Carlos Montes sent.

I will reproduce our correspondence, so you can read it and give me your opinion. We should get together and put these people into jail!

Best regards, Elsy


De: Elsa Reis
Data: 05-12-2006 20:21:02
Para: Carlos Montes
Assunto: Res: Re: Res: your property for sale


Mr. Carlos Montes,

I agree to your conditions, just let me know how do you intend to make the deposit of the money, and how can we sign the necessary legal documents.





Best regards,

Elsa Reis

-------Mensagem original-------

De: Carlos Montes
Data: 05-12-2006 9:41:30
Para: Elsa Reis
Assunto: Re: Res: your property for sale

I am ok with the price of purchasing the property for 40 000
euros but i do want you to understand that i would be
paying a deposit of 10000 euros and when my agent comes
to your location he would be paying the rest of the money
in cash ,if this is ok by you , do let ,me know .

Carl

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:43:31 +0000 (Hora padrão de GMT), "Elsa Reis" <elsa-marina@iol.pt> said:
> Mr. Carlos Montes,
>
> Thank you for your interest in our property.
>
> The house is very old, and needs some works. It has water canalization,
> and
> electric light.
> The property is composed by the house which has two bedrooms, a kitchen
> and
> a living room, and a little division where can be installed a bathroom;
> it
> also has space for a garden, a garage and a cellar.
>
> The property locates near the road that links Figueiró dos Vinhos to
> Pedrogão Grande, and it is situated in a very quiet place, surrounded of
> trees and nature, as you can see in the photos.
>
> We ask for the price of 40.000 euros.
>
> I hope that the informations above are useful, but feel confortable to
> contact me for the following numbers:
> 00351218680016
> 00351918451982
>
> I am looking forward to hear from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Elsa Reis
> Artur Perdigão
>
>
>
>
> -------Mensagem original-------
>
> De: Carlos Montes
> Data: 01-12-2006 18:53:57
> Para: montestores@ispx.com
> Assunto: your property for sale
>
> I am Carlos Montes from England , interested in the sale of your
> property ,please do let me know the present condition , price and send
> photos.
>
> I read from you.
>
> Carlos Montes
>
--
Carlos Montes
mrcarlos@fastmail.fm

--
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...
Author:  maninthestreet [ Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:26 am ]
Post subject: 
Probably a scam - no legitimate buyer offers to pay for a unseen property in cash. At the best, this is a money laundering attempt (what is the source of the money?). If you continue with the sale, don't be surprised if the 'buyer' asks you to become involved in some sort of money exchange transaction as part of the sale e.g exchange his Euros for your dollars, or vice versa, with an apparent very favourable exchange rate for you, but he ends up giving you counterfeit notes and he gets your real money.
Author:  claudia lopes [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:33 pm ]
Post subject: 
I am selling a property in the internet and I was contacted by Mr. Carlos Montes, who was interested in buying the property.
I became suspicious when Mr. Carlos Montes readily answered affirmatively when I asked for the price of 90 000 euros. Mr. Carlos Montes told me the price was to be paid by a deposit of 10 000 euros sending me a check to collect, and the rest of the amount will be paid by his agent...

I'll send you the e-mail's...

please do understand that i have evrything in place. so you need not to worry. please do send me your details so that the cheque can be sent to you.

carlos
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:00:29 -0000, "Claudia Lopes" <mlm-claudia@netvisao.pt> said:
>
> Thanks for your e-mail.
>
> I understand that you agreed with the price, but you said that you
> will paying a deposit of 10.000 Euros. I don't agree that someone send
> me a cheque that i will cashed to the send you 8.600 euros when you
> own me more 80.000 euros. If you want to make a clear business i
> agreed otherwise i wouldn't agree.
>
> Best Regards
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Carlos Montes [mailto:mrcarlos@fastmail.fm]
> Enviada: quarta-feira, 6 de Dezembro de 2006 17:23
> Para: Claudia Lopes
> Assunto: payment and trust
>
> Thanks for the mail .
>
> I do want you to understand that i have agreed with the price of
> purchasing the property for 90 000 euros but i would be paying a
> deposit of usd 10 000 euros which is ok by you.
>
> I want you to know that i got in contact with my associate in the usa
> before travelling to the UK,who owes me the sum of 18,600 euros which
> he as agreed to send a cheque OF 18600 euros to you .
>
> I would need your full name , contact address and phone no ,so that
> the cheque can be sent to your address.As soon as you recieved the cheque:
>
> 1)You would then have the cheque of(18,600 euros ) cashed, 2)collect
> how much i BOUGHT IT for usd 10000 euros as deposit 3)And have the
> rest of the money sent to my agent through western union money
> transfer so that he can come to your location TO CONCLUDE THE
> TRANSACTION I read from you, with your contact details for the cheque
> to be sent to you.
>
> Carl
Author:  cayenne [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carlos Montes: scam?
Hi, I'm living in New Caledonia and as you, I received a proposal of M. Carlos Montès to buy my property. I asked him to forward the deposit to my notary and asked for a copy of his passport. It took 2 days but he finally sent it. As you, I think that it is a trap but it's always interesting to see where to they are able to go. My notary is supposed to receive the account ... I will tell you more about it soon. In the meantime, I 'm going to try to join the passport. If anyone knows interpol, it can be interesting to check if the guy didn't steal a identity... :wink:

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Author:  cayenne [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carlos Montes: scam?
Elsy wrote:
Hi!

I am selling a property in the internet and I was contacted by Mr. Carlos Montes, who was interested in buying the property.
I became suspicious when Mr. Carlos Montes readily answered affirmatively when I asked for the price of 40 000 euros. I thought: who buys a property without seeing it...?
Even more suspicious, Mr. Carlos Montes told me the price was to be paid by a deposit of 10 000 euros, and the rest of the amount will be paid by his agent...

So I searched in the Internet and luckily found this forum.

I am now aware of the situation, but I still answered to the last e-mail Mr. Carlos Montes sent.

I will reproduce our correspondence, so you can read it and give me your opinion. We should get together and put these people into jail!

Best regards, Elsy


De: Elsa Reis
Data: 05-12-2006 20:21:02
Para: Carlos Montes
Assunto: Res: Re: Res: your property for sale


Mr. Carlos Montes,

I agree to your conditions, just let me know how do you intend to make the deposit of the money, and how can we sign the necessary legal documents.





Best regards,

Elsa Reis

-------Mensagem original-------

De: Carlos Montes
Data: 05-12-2006 9:41:30
Para: Elsa Reis
Assunto: Re: Res: your property for sale

I am ok with the price of purchasing the property for 40 000
euros but i do want you to understand that i would be
paying a deposit of 10000 euros and when my agent comes
to your location he would be paying the rest of the money
in cash ,if this is ok by you , do let ,me know .

Carl

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:43:31 +0000 (Hora padrão de GMT), "Elsa Reis" <elsa-marina@iol.pt> said:
> Mr. Carlos Montes,
>
> Thank you for your interest in our property.
>
> The house is very old, and needs some works. It has water canalization,
> and
> electric light.
> The property is composed by the house which has two bedrooms, a kitchen
> and
> a living room, and a little division where can be installed a bathroom;
> it
> also has space for a garden, a garage and a cellar.
>
> The property locates near the road that links Figueiró dos Vinhos to
> Pedrogão Grande, and it is situated in a very quiet place, surrounded of
> trees and nature, as you can see in the photos.
>
> We ask for the price of 40.000 euros.
>
> I hope that the informations above are useful, but feel confortable to
> contact me for the following numbers:
> 00351218680016
> 00351918451982
>
> I am looking forward to hear from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Elsa Reis
> Artur Perdigão
>
>
>
>
> -------Mensagem original-------
>
> De: Carlos Montes
> Data: 01-12-2006 18:53:57
> Para: montestores@ispx.com
> Assunto: your property for sale
>
> I am Carlos Montes from England , interested in the sale of your
> property ,please do let me know the present condition , price and send
> photos.
>
> I read from you.
>
> Carlos Montes
>
--
Carlos Montes
mrcarlos@fastmail.fm

--
http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...
Author:  cayenne [ Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carlos Montes: scam?
Elsy, can you please tell me if he finally bought your property ?
Author:  jgreen1980 [ Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Carlos Montes: scam?
He has photoshopped the passport, can you see the two different typefaces? (look at his name, its a different font)

I found this forum as I received an email from this guy and wanted to check him out.
I am an urban and abstract photographer ........

I am Carlos living in Lisbon,Portugal.I do want you to know the i am interested in the sale of your items/portraits. please do let me know the present condition,send me fotos and price in british pounds.
I read from you

Carlos Montes
montes@luisholdings.com

send me your website for more viewing to buy
Author:  carp [ Wed May 23, 2012 5:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Carlos Montes: scam?
grrr...i cant see the passport....i sufered the same fraud with this guy.....
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