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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:19 pm 
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Sounds like you need a better attorney. You might be able to tell the court you are receiving "ineffective counsel" and try to get another PD assigned..Or better yet, get a REAL attorney.. PD's only care about kissing the court's butt so they can move up the ladder and become prosecutors someday :/

If they are offering you a deal that would absolve and drop the case, and not have it show on your permanent record, GET IT IN WRITING. You might also be able to get legal advise free from a pro bono attorney, or possibly on a legal forum. Google around. Check for your local pro bono attorney associations or legal services for indigent people. Sell whatever you can to raise the funds to pay for a criminal defense attorney. Etc. Try to build your own defense by documenting everything you can. If the prior case is being presented against you, this is likely illegal, since prior offenses should not (and I'm tempted to say CAN NOT but that depends on your state's Code of Procedure) be used against you in the current case. Research your state laws, and the code of civil or court procedure for your state, particularly as regards evidence and past convictions.

Don't let the PD intimidate you into something you'll regret. Fact is, you have BETTER odds with a jury than with a PD making a sleazy plea bargain.

And yeah, it's not at all unusual that the police misconstrued everything you told them - thats why you're advised to NOT SAY ANYTHING (Miranda rights!)


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 Post subject: avoiding scams
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:34 pm 
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It really is shameful that predators prey on people who are honest, working people. I have been looking for something I can do from home that will give me an income so that I can raise my teen without sacrificing things I need and want for myself. I research everything before making any contact. I hope others will learn to do the same. I hope for the best for you.


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 Post subject: help
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:57 am 
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iNEED GUIDENCE I STARTED WORKING FOR VEMMABUILDER IN SEPT 2006 TO PLACE ADS ON DIFFERENT WEBSITES TO PROMOTE THEM AND THEIR PRODUCTS. TOWARD THE END OF OCT I RECEIVED A MONEY GRAM MONEY ORDER CHECK FOR THE AMOUNT OF $890. I CASHED IT EARLY NOV. AT A LOCAL QICK SHOP. ABOUT A WEEK LATER RECEIVED ANOTHER FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. AGAIN CASHED IT . NOW, I GOT A CALL FROM THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT . WENT DOWN THERE AND WAS PLACED UNDER ARREST FOR 2CTS OF THEFT OVER 500 WHICH IS A FELONY AND A CT FOR THEFT SCHEMING. WAS TOLD BY THEM THAT THE CHECKS WERE COUNTERFEIT. i HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT BRIAN VERGIN THE ONE WHO INTIALLY GOT ME STARTED. HE HAS IGNORED MY EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. NOW I AM LOST FOR WORDS ALL I CAN DO IS TELL EVERYONE WHO WILL LISTEN. BEWARE OF ANYTHING DEALING WITH THE INTERNET. AND I NEED HELP, INPUT, GUIDENCE. :cry:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:49 pm 
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Christina,
You need to get a good lawyer.

What state do you live in?

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I know what you are going through. I receive 5 money orders from these scammers. I was also arrested on the spot and going through court procedures. I live in Houston, Tx (Harris County).


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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:41 am 
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I too have been a victim of this scam and was arrested at my home after the bank contacted the police two weeks later when the money orders came back as counterfeit. My bank told me that the money would be available after three business days so thats how long I waited. I then sent the money via Western Union/Money Gram to the people they had listed. I dont watch alot of tv so I was not aware of this or any other scam similar to it. When I showed the police my conversations on yahoo messenger as well as my emails with this person who sent me the money orders, he let me go. He said that I had been scammed and that I was lucky i was able to provide him with the conversations otherwise I was going to be charged with 5 counts of felony fraud. Then he called me a week later stating the bank wanted to know when they were going to get their money and if I didnt pay them immediately they wanted him to pursue charging me with the fraud. I told him I would see what I could do and called him back a week later and told him I was going to have to file bankruptcy as I could not afford to pay the bank back. He then told me that he was going to have to forward the information on to the DA's office then and I would probably be charged. That was over a two months ago and I still havent heard anything. I was also contacted by US Customs and told that other checks that were mailed to me had been intercepted by these scammers and they asked me to send them any information I had from these people including any envelopes I had received. If the Department of Homeland Security has proof that I did not counterfeit these money orders how can I be charged when I am the victim. Do you mean to tell me that not only am I out all this money but I am going to have to face being criminally charged for this too? I dont think its right that if you have the means to pay the bank back immediately that you wont be charged but if you are in financial despair because of being scammed your going to be charged with a crime you clearly didnt intend to commit. I cant afford an attorney if this does go to court and I too am worried about getting quality representation if it does come to that. Any information would be helpful. I live in WI by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:50 pm 
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Have you contacted the Attorney General's office? Sometimes they are helpful in these types of cases.

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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:44 am 
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When you Western Unioned the money out there was a cover sheet that outlined fraud and how the scammers are utilizing WU to perpetrate the fraud. This disclaimer basically removes any blame from WU. If the DA is up on the current trends he will utilize that discalimer as the backbone for a case against you.

Basically they are saying when you filled out the "Send Money" form it was clearly posted that fraud is rampant and not to forward any moneys from people you could not verify.

Many DAs are utilizing this method to prosecute people, if you have not heard from the DA, he may not be be pursuing your case.


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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:00 pm 
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reverse wrote:
When you Western Unioned the money out there was a cover sheet that outlined fraud and how the scammers are utilizing WU to perpetrate the fraud.


Do you know when WU started to do this? I know that they did not do this when we were scammed, but that was back in 2002.

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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:15 am 
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First thing you do is HIRE a good lawyer. I know it will cost you money, but it will be worth it in the end. If you have to borrow money from family, friends, whoever, this is important enough to do it. Even if you have to sell your car and use the public transportation, I would suggest doing just that. Second, I would turn the court appointed lawyer over to the attorney general's office for breech of contract (he did not represent you as he was ordered to do). Then, I would get online and look up the regulations for the charges against you. I would not expect any attorney to care as much about my career or the rest of my life as I did. I would ask the attorney general for help. You will need to know where to find the laws that support your innocence. That is what the attorney general is for, to help his constitutents (he is elected). Depending on your charges and the details of the case, if you find that you have not broken the law and it was all inconclusive evidence, you can go before the judge and ask for a dismissal based on your evidence collected. But, the most important thing is YOU should do the research for your case, even if you hire a lawyer. Basically, the lawyer is needed in the court system because the judge demands one. I believe the person being charged should investigate and find their own evidence to support their innocence. Another good idea is to go to a university and ask a professor of law to help you locate the needed laws or statutes for your case. Most professors would love to help or show you how to find the information.

Please do not be intimidated by the justice system. Make it work for you. Just like you worked hard for the nursing degree, you must work hard to prove your innocence.

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 Post subject: Re: Help, I am being charged with forgery
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:55 am 
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I took similar international money orders to the bank and told them they were fake. They agreed. I left them my name and telephone number. I am sure they will drop the charges. Overzealous Texans


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