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 Post subject: legal justice for victims?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:56 pm 
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Hi everybody, I am yet another victim of counterfeit money order scams. Has anyone else been victimized by a "kim rose"? If you are contacted by her, please report her to authorities and on this forum to spare others from her schemes. Does ANYONE know of any way to prosecute a Nigerian scammer? Or any other international scammer for that matter? I have most all documentation concerning the case including wire transfer reciepts, one of the actual counterfeit documents, and more. Is there ANYTHING else I can resort to after filing complaints? Can I investigate her? Thanks for any help everyone.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:10 pm 
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In addition to my above case, I also have an issue with the U.S.P.S. I received (5) counterfeit money orders from this individual, and checked for their validity at my local post office. Here's the catch: the clerk at the post office STAMPED four of the money orders with their stamp ASSURING me they were good! I contacted my nearest postal inspector who told me "they could not be held responsible for the validity of the documents"! Can you beleive our own postal service cannot tell a real money order from a counterfeit! And then won't even take responsibilty for their stamp on them! Can anyone help me here? What can I do? Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:14 pm 
Did the Post Office cash them for you?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:57 pm 
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No, they were cashed at my bank at the time. I should have cashed them elsewhere, I know.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:05 pm 
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If you have been criminally charged with trying to defraud the bank because of one of these scams, and you live in Minnesota, contact me privately and I will send you the contact information for a wonderful lawyer.

If you live in a state other than Minnesota, or if you would like to look into the possibility of a civil or even class action suit against the bank, please contact

Jim at
The National Center for Victims of Crime
2000 M Street NW, Suite 480
Washington, DC 20036
1-800-FYI-CALL
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:57 pm 
Not to be mean but, if you took them to the Post Office why didn't you cash them there?


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Well armac, I wasn't aware that the post office had the ability to cash money orders, I just deposited them in the easiest place, my account. What really burns me is the fact that my post office assured me that they were valid thus placing me in this sitiuation. And of course, the USPS is conveniently exempt from blame in this case. Apparently it was my mistake and mine alone to trust that the clerk did their job. Sorry for the inherent hostility, but most of us would be livid if the USPS caused us to lose over 3 grand.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:19 am 
I would ask the bank to return me the original money orders to me then contact the Postal Inspectors and show them the stamps placed on them by the USPS. I never realized they would "stamp" a MO for you to show it's authenticity.

I work with some Postal Inspectors, I am going to ask about this stamping process and what it means.


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Well, that could take awhile because my bank won't send the documents back to me until I pay the amount I am overdrawn.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:21 pm 
jldude wrote:
Well, that could take awhile because my bank won't send the documents back to me until I pay the amount I am overdrawn.


Tell them to provide you with a copy so you can have evidence the Post Office stamped them


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 Post subject: postal money order scam
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:30 am 
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:x I thought I was friends with this person. using larryjohnsonprints@yahoo.com. He even sent me a christmas present. Then as I thought I was doing him a favor he had these money orders sent for me to cash and then send via western union, to Nigeria even though he had told me he was in the UK on business. He did have a local address in San Diego. But the Nigerian address should have been a warning I guess but at my age(58) I was still a bit naive. Well now the bank is taking me to court for the balance of what was owed, since they already cleared out my account of over $5,000.00 so now they want over $4,000.00 more. I did all that I thought I could do. Made a police report and sent all pertainable paperwork to the postal inspectors. It has been over a year and I have still not heard a word from anyone. Don't these people care? Has anyone ever gotten their money back on this thing? As far as I'm concerned the bank is just as much at fault as they should have checked them before cashing them as it states on the back of the mo's. All banking institutions were forewarned. If you can tell me anything further I can do it would be greatly appreciated. I go to court 9/8 I happen to live on a fixed income and cant really afford this. I offered $25.00 per month, but they refused. Thanks, Beverly

PS. My bank was, and never will be again, bank of america, I even tried taking them to court. But no luck. The judge seemed to be on their side.

NEW SCAMMERS WITH THE POSTAL MONEY ORDERS ARE COMING OUT OF CANADA, SO THE USPS IS CHANGING THEIR MONEY ORDERS ABOUT EVERY 3 MONTHS OR SO......SO BE FOREWARNED


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I feel your fustraction on this. I recived a check that was not only verified by myself personal throu the bank that it was drawn off of but, my bank called and verified it as well! I mean verified everything account number , check number and the amount ! Almost three weeks later it came back counterfeit. Now my bank wants me to repay the funds as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:56 pm 
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What bank do you bank with because this seems like all these banks are just getting out of their part in the matter?!?


My was Wells Fargo.

Maybe a class action suit because they are not verifying the accounts correctly or not advising their customers correctly.

In the end, they don't lose only their customers do. So actually they are part of the scam all together. Because they are providing the funds for these scammers and they are aware of the situation and are not informing their customers. Does this make any sense?!?!?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:21 pm 
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Trying to do something-- wrote:
Maybe a class action suit because they are not verifying the accounts correctly or not advising their customers correctly


Class action lawsuits have been looked into in the past . . . try searching this board for "class action" and I am sure that you will find information on past attempts. We even worked with someone from http://www.masryvititoe.com/ (the lawfirm from the movie Erin Brockovich) and they were not able to get a class action together.

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 Post subject: THE BANK
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:40 am 
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:evil: THE BANK I USED WAS THE BANK OF AMERICA. IT'S A SORRY STATE OF AFAIRS WHEN YOU GET SCREWED TWICE AND NEVER GET ANY PLEASURE OUT OF IT. GUESS WE HAVE TO LEARN THE HARD WAY SOMETIMES. DON'T TRUST ANYONE NOT EVEN THE BANKS. I'LL PROBABLY DIE BEFORE THIS IS EVER PAID OFF. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL. ALL MY BEST,BEV[/b]


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