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 Post subject: Employment opportunity / eCommerce / ProPay
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:21 pm 

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:04 pm
Posts: 3
Hi, I have not engaged with this company yet, but have had no luck in finding any info on them. They got my home and email addresses from and sent me the following email:

Hello! I am Steve and I am a senior eRecruiter with ICC eCommerce Company. I
got your email from the CareerBuilder website.

Come join us! We're opening a new work- at- home position and are looking
for energetic, well-organized individuals with good communication skills to
join our new eCommerce team!

With offices and clients throughout the world, we offer the opportunity to
work within a truly global organization. Our goal is to set and maintain
high standards in the development of existing and new markets.

I am pleased to say that we have just signed several exclusive contracts
with prospective software developers which require accurate and professional
processing of their sales transactions via ProPay and similar systems. These
vendors represent dozens of the best selling products listed in the most
popular software catalogues, resulting of hundreds of transactions every

I’ve noticed that you are experienced with ProPay and you may be interested
in working for a professional company that respects and rewards your
efforts. We can offer you a challenging and exciting career with an
excellent salary and benefits package!

- A base salary of $30.00 per hour;

- Extra commission in increments of 9.00% for each eTransaction processed;
What does this mean for you? Since the software invoices we process average
approximately $200, you will earn $18.

- $500 bonus after 14 days of employment; PLUS monthly and annual bonuses.

But we’re not done. Imagine the freedom of working online from home! Set
your own hours and enjoy more time with your family. Monday through Sundays
are our available work days. Work mornings, afternoons and/or evenings and
even nights. Determine your own success and compensation.

If this sounds interesting to you, we’d love to talk to you more about this
exciting opportunity.


Steve McDaniel

(484) 727-2767

ICC eCommerce Solutions

P.S. If this isn't the right time for you then please keep in touch – and
feel free to pass this message along to current or previous colleagues who
may be interested. Referrals are always welcome, and are greatly

After some emails back and forth, I find that this company wants me to invoice, or bill people who need to renew license codes for software, using my propay or paypal account. They do not say whether this invoicing will continue through my accounts after the 14 day "probationary period".

I was sent a list of invoices to send out, but since my propay account has limits on it, I am hesitant to do so. They tell me to take my commission and 3.00 off the top for the processing fees, and they will pay via paycheck to my Paypal account when paid twice a month.

This all sounds wonderful, but the first alarm bell came when I looked at the header for the original email tome and found a different email address from a different domain. I wanted to check here before going further, since I cannot find any info on this business aside from their formal website:

http://www.iccecommerce DOT com
and this one which uses the email suffix of the sender:
iccteam DOT com

I am awaiting more instructions from the person and verification of a legitimate business that I requested.

Any help would be wonderful, and finding this forum has been helpful already!

Thank you

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:01 pm 

Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:10 am
Posts: 583
This company claims to have been in business for 5 years yet there's no information on them whatsoever. The phone number according to their website is a "fax" number and it originates in Pennsylvania not in NY where this company is supposedly located. Paypal can be added to anyone's site for free to collect payments, therefore legitimate companies would not need an outsider to process their payments for them. Another red flag is the domain name is brand new (created August 18, 2007) and the contact is in California??? When I Googled the admin phone number found below (+1.5105952002) all kinds of payment processing scams came up related to that exact number. Also the domain that the email goes to ( does not exist. This is a money transfer job scam.

Domain info at this time:

Domain Name..........
Creation Date........ 2007-08-18
Registration Date.... 2007-08-18
Expiry Date.......... 2008-08-18
Organisation Name.... Steve Jordan
Organisation Address. P O Box 99800
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. EmeryVille
Organisation Address. 94662
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. US

Admin Name........... PrivateRegContact Admin
Admin Address........ P O Box 99800
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ EmeryVille
Admin Address........ 94662
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ US
Admin Email..........
Admin Phone.......... +1.5105952002
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ PrivateRegContact TECH
Tech Address......... P O Box 99800
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... EmeryVille
Tech Address......... 94662
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... US
Tech Email...........
Tech Phone........... +1.5105952002
Tech Fax.............
Name Server..........
Name Server..........

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:57 pm 

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:04 pm
Posts: 3
Thank you so much ximora, I appreciate your help very much. I did check the domain, and came up with the same info. I also found that the domain had expired previously so that was interesting, not that it really means much, just that the site they are presenting is not 5 years old.

I also thought it was fishy for them to ask you to use your own propay and paypal accounts and not even inquire what the limits on the accounts were, if any. I have many other emails from this person and plan on reporting them, but they also made it sound as if you would be logging into an interface of theirs to do the invoicing, which sounded better, but they had no intention of that at all. Hello? I've worked with Paypal for a long time, and the thought that they didn't need me to process an order flew right out the window, so even people who think they know a thing or two can be taken. That is the lesson I've learned.

Boy, I have been in business online for almost 7 years, and can usually spot something off, but due to an unfortunate turn of events in my life, I am desperately seeking employment and almost fell for this. I am ashamed, but also thankful I had somewhere to get opinions. I've taken some steps to protect my accounts, and hope it will be enough since they got no other info from me.

Job seekers, be careful out there. Again, thanks so much for helping me out.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:02 pm 

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:04 pm
Posts: 3
One more thing worth mentioning. Although I mentioned a job search, I have no account at, so they got my email from my website!

 Post subject: Re: Employment opportunity / eCommerce / ProPay
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:55 pm 

Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:54 pm
Posts: 1
So interesting turn of events for this specific number... I found it when I was looking up 'Whois' information on this "Retina Markets Inc" a supposed market research company.... apparently they have come a long way since 2005 (improved grammar and everything!) Basically I was looking for some more research participation studies a their post seemed legit...

:arrow: From Craigslist...

We Need Focus Group Participants ($250) (San Diego)
Date: 2011-10-28, 1:42PM PDT
Reply to: [Errors when replying to ads?]
When: Saturday, November 5, 10:00am-11:30am

Where: Our Facility in San Diego, more details to be provided if selected

-men and women
-interest in home products
-primary purchaser of home products in their household

Participants will earn $250.Please respond with your name, age and phone number for more information.

Location: San Diego
Compensation: $250
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

So after contacting them, the 5th of November passed.... and BAM! I get a wonderful email response....

Good Morning,
I would like to inform you of a focus group which will be holding next week that
pays participants $300. More information on the study is provided below.

We will be conducting surveys on Western Union outlets to help measure and
improve their services. The survey will require that you visit a an outlet in your
neighborhood to patronize the services they provide as a customer, you will give
us feedback on your experience by filling out a survey questionnaire.

The survey will take a maximum of 2hrs to complete and you will be paid $300 for
every evaluation completed, If you are interested in participating in this study,
please send us a reply with your information in the following order ASAP to take
your spot.

Full Name
Mailing Address (No p.o. Box)
Phone Number
Email address
Current occupation

We'll get back to you after receiving this information to confirm your participation
in the survey. Surveys fill up fast and participation is on a first come first serve
Thank you.

Yours faithfully,
David Mark
Market Research Analyst
Retina Marketing inc.

OH OH OH! and Lastly.... this email... which is a dead ringer...

Good Morning,
This is to confirm you have been selected as 1 of 4 Western Union Evaluation agent in your area.
Funds for the survey and other materials needed for the evaluation will be delivered to the
address you provided next week. Further instructions will be sent to you upon delivery.

Kindly acknowledge receipt of this email to show your acceptance and willingness to carry out the
survey for the company.

David Mark
Market Research Analyst
Retina Markets Inc

Just trying to warn people... I'm sure we all know Western Union is synonymous with scam these days... but it was interesting to see the events unfold. I'm gonna continue with my spirit of trolling them (as I did on my first brush with the 419 was about in 2005) in conjunction with posting on

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