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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:23 pm 
jdlowe wrote:
As I said, the email name shows up as Lorenzo Wardell. The envelope came from Bartow, Florida...zipcode 33831.

Other searches come up...all with the same name in Bartow. I have to pay to get the address though.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:29 pm 
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I'm not even sure if any of this helps, but I'm looking up everything I can on massive-cash.com and have found this info on netcraft:


-Site http://www.massive-cash.com
-Last reboot unknown Uptime graph
-Domain massive-cash.com
-Netblock owner Network Operations Center Inc.
-IP address 64.191.63.197
-Site rank unknown
-Country US
-Nameserver ns41.dedicatedusa.com
-Date first seen March 2006
-DNS admin root@srv2.com
-Domain Registry unknown
-Reverse DNS server71.dedicatedusa.com
-Organisation unknown
-Nameserver Organisation Hostroute.com Ltd, 1133 Broadway, Suite 706, New York, 10010, United States



-Netblock Owner
Go Daddy Software, Inc. 14455 N Hayden Road Suite 226 Scottsdale AZ US 85260

-IP address
64.202.189.156

-OS
Windows Server 2003

-Web Server
Microsoft-IIS/6.0

-Last changed
18-May-2006





I then looked up the IP address 64.191.63.197 on network solutions....this is what comes up:


64.191.63.197
Record Type: IP Address


OrgName: Network Operations Center Inc.
OrgID: NOC
Address: PO Box 591
City: Scranton
StateProv: PA
PostalCode: 18501-0591
Country: US

NetRange: 64.191.0.0 - 64.191.127.255
CIDR: 64.191.0.0/17
NetName: HOSTNOC-3BLK
NetHandle: NET-64-191-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.HOSTNOC.NET
NameServer: NS2.HOSTNOC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2002-05-31
Updated: 2003-08-08

RTechHandle: SMA4-ARIN
RTechName: Arcus, S. Matthew
RTechPhone: +1-570-343-8551
RTechEmail: nic@hostnoc.net

OrgTechHandle: SMA4-ARIN
OrgTechName: Arcus, S. Matthew
OrgTechPhone: +1-570-343-8551
OrgTechEmail: nic@hostnoc.net



Also on the network solutions website, I searched for the website itself and it showed a screenshot of the website and came up with all of this info:



The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MASSIVE-CASH.COM
Created on: 25-Dec-05
Expires on: 26-Dec-06
Last Updated on:

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration MASSIVE-CASH.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration MASSIVE-CASH.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS41.DEDICATEDUSA.COM
NS42.DEDICATEDUSA.COM


The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

Show underlying registry data for this record



Current Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
IP Address: 64.191.63.197 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-PENNSYLVANIA-SCRANTON
Record Type: Domain Name
Server Type: IIS 6
Lock Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Web Site Status: Active
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Web Site Title: Massive Cash Resources
Secure: No
E-commerce: Yes
Traffic Ranking: 5
Data as of: 25-Jul-2006




I don't know if any of this would help or not......


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:30 pm 
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armac wrote:
Do not post someone's info here


Sorry....can someone edit it for me?


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jdlowe wrote:
armac wrote:
Do not post someone's info here


Sorry....can someone edit it for me?


Consider it done.
We ask that people only post the contact information of known scammers so that others can search that same contact information and have the chance to find out here that the person that they are in contact is a scammer before it is too late.

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Makes sense. We will see what happens in the next few weeks. If my info gets stolen, I will go after this guy and post his info again.


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 Post subject: DONT SEND IT !!!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:27 pm 
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JDLOWE, IF YOUR READING THIS BEFORE YOU SENT THAT PAPER IN THEN YOU CAN BE SAVED, if not - then your screwed. It so painfully obvious that this guy is running a ridiculous scam to take 100 dollars from you and the 10,000 other "schmucks" who fell for his trap. Besides the fact that getting 50,000 from phone calls is the most pathetic attempt at a scam thus far, here as some other red flags. 1) The identical quotes from different websites 2) the incorrect names he used 3) the fact that your "item" was only shipped after a paypal claim was made AND 4) Dont you find it a bit curious he asks you to WAIT THE 6-8 WEEKS FOR "processing". Thats the exact amount of time needed for your item to be refused any further claims from PAYPAL!!!

In the future why not just throw twenty dollar bills out your car window, it would be more productive then giving it to this guy. Damn, some people need a kick in the a$$ !


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:17 pm 
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Another thing....look at the top of the page....the very top. It says "Contact Us" and then to the right it says "Ready to Order? Click Here!"...now, when you click on that link, it takes you to an order page for firesaleprofits.com Take a look at firesaleprofits.com....it is A LOT like the massive-cash website. Quite a few things are EXACTLY the same. Check out the quote that is supposedly by "Jim Walker" at the top:


Well now you can't click and go to firesalesprofits.com and by the way the cost for massive-cash.com is now $197 as of today. I am not sure if this Jim Walker sold the firesales website but one thing is for sure the people that claim firesalesprofits is a legit site are prominent "online gurus". This make the massive site really murky because if gurus co-sign the firesales site this may mean that it is likely one of your favorite web gurus running a scam on the side. WELCOME TO MARKETING FOLKS!!!!


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Another thing....look at the top of the page....the very top. It says "Contact Us" and then to the right it says "Ready to Order? Click Here!"...now, when you click on that link, it takes you to an order page for firesaleprofits.com Take a look at firesaleprofits.com....it is A LOT like the massive-cash website. Quite a few things are EXACTLY the same. Check out the quote that is supposedly by "Jim Walker" at the top:
Quote:


Well now you can't click and go to firesalesprofits.com and by the way the cost for massive-cash.com is now $197 as of today. I am not sure if this Jim Walker sold the firesales website but one thing is for sure the people that claim firesalesprofits is a legit site are prominent "online gurus". This make the massive site really murky because if gurus co-sign the firesales site this may mean that it is likely one of your favorite web gurus running a scam on the side. WELCOME TO MARKETING FOLKS!!!!


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[quote]Another thing....look at the top of the page....the very top. It says "Contact Us" and then to the right it says "Ready to Order? Click Here!"...now, when you click on that link, it takes you to an order page for firesaleprofits.com Take a look at firesaleprofits.com....it is A LOT like the massive-cash website. Quite a few things are EXACTLY the same. Check out the quote that is supposedly by "Jim Walker" at the top: [quote]


Well now you can't click and go to firesalesprofits.com and by the way the cost for massive-cash.com is now $197 as of today. I am not sure if this Jim Walker sold the firesales website but one thing is for sure the people that claim firesalesprofits is a legit site are prominent "online gurus". This make the massive site really murky because if gurus co-sign the firesales site this may mean that it is likely one of your favorite web gurus running a scam on the side. WELCOME TO MARKETING FOLKS!!!!


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hi i just found this tread. how did it all turn out? Is it a scam? there is a new site now http://www.massivecashtrial.com
i have given my credit card details already :oops: :oops:
have had an email saying that it will be posted tommorow and I would get a tracking number, that was on the 9th jan. i have emailed asking for the tracking number no repley as yet. It's been 6 days I have sent a emaill everyday.

i have looked up the phone number they give in the email and it is legit, well at least it matching the name and town provided, same name and town you have been discussing i also got the address, looked it up on google earth the house exists. dosn't really look like a millionaire house?lol

considering ringing the number, is this a bad idea?

any feedback appriciated


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That is strange...they closed their old website and opened that new one. I replied to your PM....I might try this one out and see if the pieces of crap actually follow through - I doubt it. Read my PM for details....


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